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Poll: people with MSI problems... your chip batch::Recreated with all new kungfu POLLING action

Topochicho

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WetWilly made a suggestion that there might be a bad batch of 686B southbridge chips, and that it might not be a MSI problem.




<< 1) This sounds like a batch problem, either bad boards or possibly a bad run of the 686B southbridge, since there are people out there with functioning boards. I'd tend to lean toward the southbridge because other manufacturers don't seem to be having this problem and MSI and Epox were the first out of the gate with 686B southbridges on their boards. Considering that VIA is known for improving quality and reliability on later batches of their chips, and MSI and Epox I'd guess were most likely to have gotten the first production batches of the 686B, then I'd expect them to have the problems first. BTW, isn't it kind of curious that Abit and Asus waited and didn't drop the 686B immediately into their KT133 products? There's already rumblings out that there's a FSB limitation (won't go above much 145MHz FSB) on the first batches of KT133A chips as well, but later batches will hit 160MHz. That may be the problem with Anand's KT7A-RAID board. A suggestion - if there isn't a sticker over it, perhaps everyone with a problem could compare the date codes on their 686B and see if there's any consistency. Your chip should look like:

VT82C686B XXXXCD TAIWAN
The &quot;XXXX&quot; should look like &quot;0043&quot; for a 2000 Week 43 chip.
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Funny thing is that I have the 0043 chip, and am haveing problems that none of the &quot;fixes&quot; are fixing. Leo V also reported that he has 0043... lets see how many others who are haveing the same problems also have 0043.
 
so far 100% of the prople that have voted have 0043... of course I am the only one to have voted so far.

FrEstYle29:
zippy:
Sorry you posted before the poll was posted but its there now, lets see your votes.

bernse:
austonia:
Thanks for your post in the previous incarnation of this question, but I had to recreate to get the poll to work.

In case they don't repost or vote I will repost thier posts

bernse:


<< Well, I don't see a poll yet but mine is a 53 (Dec31?) No problems at all. Rock solid. >>



austonia:


<< i will check my chip when i get home, but i have had tons of problems with this mobo.. very unhappy. most recent problem found.. changing the multiplier on an unlocked duron 700 causes odd bus speeds.. for instance 9x 100 gives me 500mhz, 9.5 gives me 550mhz and so on up to 11.5x. at 12x it defaults back to 700mhz. wtf?? okay, so this mobo i bought specifically to overclock can't even do that. what a POS. i will forever warn people of MSI quality. If they had problems with Southbridge, it should have been apparent if they bothered to do any qulaity assurance testing. >>

 
All the K7TPro2A boards I have that have exhibited problems are later than week 43 but I have several Epox 8KTA2 boards that have 43 chips that work fine. I really believe it's in MSI's Implementation of the 686B. Seems to me to be mainly a CMOS pull-up issue rather than a true hardware problem with the MSI boards. Don't get me wrong here ... I know the 686B has &quot;issues&quot; that affect all boards using it but MSI seems to have a more varied array of &quot;issues&quot; and some that are Not seen in other brands (the multiplier problem for example). Also a CMOS Pull up issue wouold explain the random nature of the problems where one board is fine (as fine as VIA gets) and another board has a problem.
 
ohh this is good to know, depending on how things work out i was gonna try to build an athy on that board soon
 
OK. I will do this again 🙂


Week 53. Not a single problem or concern yet. Probably the most straight forward solid board I have owned since my old XP55T2P4.

 
Week 50. I have tried to aggrivate the board by simulating problematic scenarios, such as copying large +1gb files from partition to partition, but as of yet no problems.

I do have one odd problem that I cant explain. The voltage reported by both the BIOS, MBM, and the MSI monitoring software always report a voltage that is .1V higher than what I select. For instance, if I select 1.6, the the voltage will read 1.7 in all three above places. Also, the BIOS default voltage setting reads 1.7V. Any ideas on this problem?

Thanks,
Jay
 
Lets float this one more day for all the people who had to go home and check out thier systems.

Not much of a sample group, but the poll is showing an interesting trend.

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