Poll: Over exaggerate work hours on timesheets?

fs5

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Is it wrong? I mean I usually round to the nearest half hour. So if I come in at 9:59 I say I come in at 9:30 on the timesheet. Or if I leave around 6:01 I say 6:30 :evil:

but I mean I don't take breaks so I figure it evens out.
 

filmmaker

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It's completely wrong.

There's actually a guy at work that was putting chaotic42's hours on his timesheet. We were both pretty steamed about the whole thing.
 

freebee

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Hourly employees are the grunts of the industry. By all means, we should get as many minutes as possible every week. Its probably not ethically right....but unless you are making 25+ dollars an hour, the differences are minimal.
 

anno

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Is it wrong? I mean I usually round to the nearest half hour. So if I come in at 9:59 I say I come in at 9:30 on the timesheet. Or if I leave around 6:01 I say 6:30 :evil:

but I mean I don't take breaks so I figure it evens out.

there's nothing nearest about those half hours.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Is it wrong? I mean I usually round to the nearest half hour. So if I come in at 9:59 I say I come in at 9:30 on the timesheet. Or if I leave around 6:01 I say 6:30 :evil:

but I mean I don't take breaks so I figure it evens out.

Uh.. I would sometimes round by 5 minutes, but not half an hours... that's pretty shady.
 

Electric Amish

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Our company policy is nearest 15min.

That being said, mine ALWAYS states 8:00AM to 16:00PM, because my boss said he doesn't care that I have every minute worked out. He knows if I don't get something done he'll hear about it.
 
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Originally posted by: anno
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Is it wrong? I mean I usually round to the nearest half hour. So if I come in at 9:59 I say I come in at 9:30 on the timesheet. Or if I leave around 6:01 I say 6:30 :evil:

but I mean I don't take breaks so I figure it evens out.

there's nothing nearest about those half hours.
Agreed. It appears you have forgotten what "nearest" actually means.

I'm working full time on a salary now, so the concept of "work hours" lost all meaning. When I was working here hourly, I rounded to the nearest 15 minute interval.
 

filmmaker

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: Roger
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actually it's no different than being at work and goofing off (ie posting on ATOT or AIM) right?
No. If you are at work posting, at least you are physically there to do the work if they tell you to do it.
 

actually it's no different than being at work and goofing off (ie posting on ATOT or AIM) right?

HUGE difference, were you in the building under the clock when reporting those hours ?....no.
 

kranky

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Well, I've had to fire two people over the years for lying on their timesheets, so I recommend not doing it.

I'm not saying it will break the company, but in my experience people who lie on their timesheets are dishonest in other areas too. I might not catch them stealing office supplies, making LD calls from work, using fake receipts on their expense reports, sleeping in the lab, etc. But if I catch them lying on their timesheets more than once, they are gone because I can prove that. I just don't want dishonest people working for me. It's too much work to watch them.

And the honest employees seem to like it when the cheaters get canned, so that's an extra bonus.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: Roger
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actually it's no different than being at work and goofing off (ie posting on ATOT or AIM) right?
It is in an ethical sense. You're not even at work and you're being paid for that time.

People don't surf ATOT when they have work to be done. As long as you're keeping up with your workload, there is nothing wrong with going off task for a while. But saying you were at work when you were not is wrong, and it would only take someone going "Hmmm.." to get you in some serious trouble. I would recommend against it...
 

AreaCode707

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I round by company policy - to the nearest five minutes. As for the not taking breaks thing - unless they're taking a chunk out of your paycheck, assuming that you're taking breaks, you shouldn't be adding on time to compensate. Even if they were doing that, you should just talk to them and sort it out.
 

MegaloManiaK

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I always record it down to the min.

Time zones are a different story though, If you live in central time you should put your in time based on pacific and your outtime based on eastern :evil:

 

fs5

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Originally posted by: HotChic
I round by company policy - to the nearest five minutes. As for the not taking breaks thing - unless they're taking a chunk out of your paycheck, assuming that you're taking breaks, you shouldn't be adding on time to compensate. Even if they were doing that, you should just talk to them and sort it out.

I don't even know what the company policy is, and my boss never checks my hours either. Always just signs the timesheet without looking at it, I could possibly lie my ass off and round to the nearest even number...

Now you guys make me feel bad! :(

 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: filmmaker
It's completely wrong.

There's actually a guy at work that was putting chaotic42's hours on his timesheet. We were both pretty steamed about the whole thing.

Yeah :|
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: HotChic
I round by company policy - to the nearest five minutes. As for the not taking breaks thing - unless they're taking a chunk out of your paycheck, assuming that you're taking breaks, you shouldn't be adding on time to compensate. Even if they were doing that, you should just talk to them and sort it out.

I don't even know what the company policy is, and my boss never checks my hours either. Always just signs the timesheet without looking at it, I could possibly lie my ass off and round to the nearest even number...

Now you guys make me feel bad! :(

You obviously already felt bad about it or you wouldn't be questioning whether it's right or wrong :p
 

m2kewl

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i around to nearest hr. if leaving at 6:01pm = leaving at 7pm

consulting is great!! ;)
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: Roger
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actually it's no different than being at work and goofing off (ie posting on ATOT or AIM) right?
It is in an ethical sense. You're not even at work and you're being paid for that time.

People don't surf ATOT when they have work to be done. As long as you're keeping up with your workload, there is nothing wrong with going off task for a while. But saying you were at work when you were not is wrong, and it would only take someone going "Hmmm.." to get you in some serious trouble. I would recommend against it...

Yeah. My job is about 75% nothing, 20% minor tedium work, and 5% intense work. By intense I mean running around doing things, not lifting bricks or whatever.
 

vi edit

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My employer had a lawsuit brought against them because of a glitch in our punch in/out system. At 2:00 AM every morning a program would pull hours from employee punches and record them. This process took 2 minutes to complete. Some of our operations run 24/7 and there would be employee's punched in at that time that it was running. The polling process would punch them out, and then punch them back in after the process was complete. When it did this it would shave off two minutes from an employee's hours.

What happened was an employee was looking over what time he clocked in and clocked out and looked at how much he was getting paid. It ended up being close to half an hour in a two week period. He tried bringing a lawsuit against us because we were cheating him time.

Fair enough. We manually account for this now.

But, in equality, if an employee is going to nag about 2 minutes being off, we're going to bust your balls for punching out 15 minutes later than you were actually working.
 

fs5

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Originally posted by: deerslayer
You obviously already felt bad about it or you wouldn't be questioning whether it's right or wrong :p

I did feel bad, but I gotta get paid some how right? I was hoping for more people to say it's right or that they're doing it to so I don't feel bad. :)