Poll only - Who's lying?

[fskimospy]

You know that he wasn’t a virgin how..?

He told his roommate at Yale he wasn’t a virgin. Now of course he wouldn’t be the first guy to lie about not being a virgin but Kavanaugh’s contemporary writing in his yearbook and his overall crazy, drunken behavior in high school and college raise a pretty decent likelihood he’s lying about being a virgin as well.

At best, he was a liar about the issue back then. Potentially a liar about the issue now.

 

[fskimospy]

Lindsey Graham calls for another investigation. Political mudslinging results in political mudslinging. This whole fiasco is the shape of things to come. Social media is ansolutlenfueling the fire too imo. On the plus side it dramatically opens up dialogue from everyone across the country. The negative though is that it dramatically opens up dialogue from everyone across the country.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...-democrats-handled-ford-s-accusations-n915156

“We’re going to do a wholesale and full-scale investigation of what I think was a despicable process,” Graham, of South Carolina, said on ABC’s “This Week.”

Graham — who made headlines during Thursday’s hearing for growing furious with Senate Democrats and blasting them for orchestrating a “sham” — said Sunday that he would demand an investigation into “what happened in this committee.”​

Lol, I like how our good friend Lindsey thinks there’s no need to investigate an attempted rape but there is a need to investigate that someone found out about it.

If anyone in congress should be subject to an investigation it’s Graham himself. He’s pledged to falsify allegations against future Democratic nominees.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

IMO only ONE of the 2 have taken a polygraph examination, when asked about it Kavanaugh replied "they are not admissible in federal court". Huh?, we all know that Brett, but just the same with a highly qualified operator the test's are around 90-95% accuracy. If you are so passionate that "I did not do this" you would jump at this chance to help clear your name. The fact that he does not want an FBI investigation (obviously to protect Mark Judd) is screaming "I'm hiding something".

Polygraph is worthless. You can clench your butthole to get your heart rate up enough so the background drowns out any changes from answers you give anxiously.

 

[mikeymikec]

Where are you going with the question?

I think UC just confused himself sufficiently to argue against his own position.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Lol, I like how our good friend Lindsey thinks there’s no need to investigate an attempted rape but there is a need to investigate that someone found out about it.

If anyone in congress should be subject to an investigation it’s Graham himself. He’s pledged to falsify allegations against future Democratic nominees.

No he didn’t, he said Dems laid out the SOP going forward on how to derail nominations. This will be every nomination henceforth because both parties are damn well taking notes that it works.

 

[Muse]

To be fair, how would he know? 😀

If he did that a lot, he'd know... people would let him know. He tried to turn the tables and ask the questioner if she had issues with alcohol. Like by implication, doesn't everybody? Isn't adolescent drunkenness a right of passage in America? He didn't say those things in so many words, but his behavior hinted at it clearly enough, nudge, nudge!

 

[Muse]

Google devil's triangle, it's three-way sex with two men and one woman.

Uh, devil's triangle... that's a drinking game. That's what he said. This guy could obfuscate anything at the drop of a hat, is the impression you get.

 

[UglyCasanova]

And oddly enough Ford wasn’t asked about her drinking.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I really dig how R shills have stepped up to the microphone, aka Lindsey Graham, to threaten future D nominations for attempting to attain the truth about this situation.

Ooh Graham is scary. What's he going to do, obstruct and delay a Democratic nomination for a year? Oh wait.

 

[Muse]

Ah, the old "yes we did something vile and slimy, but he deserved it". It horrifies me that this has become a plausible option in today's world. There are ways to gain what you want without losing ones dignity. It all comes down to what you believe. Is more important to be right, to win, then it is to be a decent human being? I am honestly asking you?

I can't speak for them, but can speak for myself, and for myself the answer is no.

 

[Muse]

And oddly enough Ford wasn’t asked about her drinking.

No, what's odd is that you are trolling this thread with your stupid ideas.

 

[mikeymikec]

And oddly enough Ford wasn’t asked about her drinking.

For what reason would you ask her that question?

 

[fskimospy]

No he didn’t, he said Dems laid out the SOP going forward on how to derail nominations. This will be every nomination henceforth because both parties are damn well taking notes that it works.

‘Nice nominees you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to them.’ I invite Republicans to do this, by the way. If they have credible accusations like we have here then whatever nominee that is should be defeated.

You know as well as I do that Republicans are just mad because they are afraid their nomination will fail. They know the accusations are probably true which is why they are working overtime to limit the investigations into kavanaugh.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

No he didn’t, he said Dems laid out the SOP going forward on how to derail nominations. This will be every nomination henceforth because both parties are damn well taking notes that it works.

What does Graham need to take notes for? Delaying Kavanuagh's nomination by a week is hardly as impressive as when Graham killed Garland's by delaying it a year.

 

[Muse]

Ooh Graham is scary. What's he going to do, obstruct and delay a Democratic nomination for a year? Oh wait.

Lindsey Graham is a serious douchebag. That slimeball is a disgrace and that's a major understatement.

 

[fskimospy]

And oddly enough Ford wasn’t asked about her drinking.

Why do you think that is odd? She doesn’t have a reputation for being hugely, blindingly drunk constantly for years on end.

If anything you should embrace that line of thinking because it’s basically the only way that Kavanaugh isn’t lying here. Maybe he was just blacked out.

 

[UglyCasanova]

For what reason would you ask her that question?

You don’t think it’s relevant? Kavanaugh is being raked over the coals about his high school drinking. Wonder if her drinking that night could have altered her perception of what happened... Not suppose to ask that though.

 

[jackstar7]

And oddly enough Ford wasn’t asked about her drinking.

How would it be relevant? Please explain fully.

 

[jackstar7]

You don’t think it’s relevant? Kavanaugh is being raked over the coals about his high school drinking. Wonder if her drinking that night could have altered her perception of what happened... Not suppose to ask that though.

Wow. You really want to reach for it all. Bless your heart.

 

[soundforbjt]

You don’t think it’s relevant? Kavanaugh is being raked over the coals about his high school drinking. Wonder if her drinking that night could have altered her perception of what happened... Not suppose to ask that though.

Kavanaugh sounded like an angry drunk in the hearing, seriously he sounded like a guy who just found out the party was for an intervention. Ford on the other hand, was calm, collected, coherent, and intelligent in her answers.

 

[jackstar7]

Klobuchar's dad being an alcoholic made his attempts to rebuff her all the more grotesque.

She likely recognized the behavior.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Kavanaugh sounded like an angry drunk in the hearing, seriously he sounded like a guy who just found out the party was for an intervention. Ford on the other hand, was calm, collected, coherent, and intelligent in her answers.

Ok? Has nothing to do with their high school drinking though. Especially in the night this was alleged to have occurred. If you want to know the truth this would seem relevant would it not?

As I’ve said many times before, it’s not about the truth. It’s impossible to know the truth. No one in congress voting on this gives a shit about the truth, nor do they give shit if it did happen anyways. This is a smear campaign and stall tactic to push the vote past midterms.

 

[mikeymikec]

You don’t think it’s relevant? Kavanaugh is being raked over the coals about his high school drinking. Wonder if her drinking that night could have altered her perception of what happened... Not suppose to ask that though.

I was honestly considering adding to my previous post "don't answer my question with a question", because I was sure that was going to happen. What would the point of asking her that from that point of view be? Kavanaugh already claimed that nothing happened and dodged the question about whether he ever got black-out drunk. She's crystal-clear in her assertion that he sexually assaulted her.

Alcohol intake is important in some situations regarding sexual allegations for three reasons:

1) Inhibitions: Would one act on sexual urges as a result of alcohol intake in situations that one normally wouldn't.
2) Memory
3) "Was it consensual or not"

Since Kavanaugh asserts that nothing happened between them, then the third point goes right out the window. Since her inhibitions are hardly in question as she was the victim and Kavanaugh asserts that nothing happened between them, the first point goes out the window. How exactly does the second point have a leg to stand on? "Are you sure you're remembering being sexually assaulted?" "Do you think I'd be here testifying with 100% certainty that he assaulted me if I wasn't?".

Asking Kavanaugh about his drinking on the other hand is relevant since he's the alleged aggressor in this situation. It's relevant on the first point, the second point, but not the third since neither are claiming any level of consent in their association.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No, what's odd is that you are trolling this thread with your stupid ideas.

Stick around, it's not odd at all. SOP for him.

 

[soundforbjt]

Ok? Has nothing to do with their high school drinking though. Especially in the night this was alleged to have occurred. If you want to know the truth this would seem relevant would it not?

As I’ve said many times before, it’s not about the truth. It’s impossible to know the truth. No one in congress voting on this gives a shit about the truth, nor do they give shit if it did happen anyways. This is a smear campaign and stall tactic to push the vote past midterms.

Whateever, your mind, Like Grassley's, etc. was made up before the hearing.