POLL: Most ruthless and vicious leader of all time?

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

welst10

Platinum Member
Mar 2, 2004
2,562
1
0
How could you guys miss Japanese WW2 prime minister Hideki Tojo, a Class A war criminal? His army killed more than Hitler did. And he didn't want to stop until after 2 A-bombs.

Correction: Hideki Tojo didn't want to stop the brutal occupation and massecre of much of Asia by his army even after 2 A-bombs. It's the Japanese emperor who decided to surrender.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
0
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Who do YOU think is the most infamous?


infamous: Hitler, actually most deadly: Stalin or that chinese guy. I'm biased against the soviets. My family was living quite happily in Russia before the Revolution. Dumb ass communists.

Then you should like Stalin. He killed most of the original revolutionaries ;)
 

Kenazo

Lifer
Sep 15, 2000
10,429
1
81
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Who do YOU think is the most infamous?


infamous: Hitler, actually most deadly: Stalin or that chinese guy. I'm biased against the soviets. My family was living quite happily in Russia before the Revolution. Dumb ass communists.

Then you should like Stalin. He killed most of the original revolutionaries ;)


this is true, though he wasn't too nice to those of my family that were still in the USSR either, so he sucks too.
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
11,631
11
76
I take most infamous to be most known for evil, which is certainly hitler. No one compares every political figure to stalin, even if it would be more apt.

Also, I think hitler's vision and MO were a lot more, well, evil. I haven't read a lot about pol pot, though.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
0
Originally posted by: welst10
How could you guys missed Japanese WW2 prime minister Hideki Tojo, a Class A war criminal? His army killed more than Hitler did. And he didn't want to stop until after 2 A-bombs.

That's a good point, the Japanese were very ruthless and vicious in WW2. However, Stalin was killing millions of his own people, which gives him mad bonus points.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
52,780
46,595
136
Originally posted by: welst10
How could you guys missed Japanese WW2 prime minister Hideki Tojo, a Class A war criminal? His army killed more than Hitler did. And he didn't want to stop until after 2 A-bombs.

I didn't.
 

Kenazo

Lifer
Sep 15, 2000
10,429
1
81
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: welst10
How could you guys missed Japanese WW2 prime minister Hideki Tojo, a Class A war criminal? His army killed more than Hitler did. And he didn't want to stop until after 2 A-bombs.

That's a good point, the Japanese were very ruthless and vicious in WW2. However, Stalin was killing millions of his own people, which gives him mad bonus points.

The problem w/ Stalin, the Japanese guy and all the others is that although they were brutal, neither were really as "Infamous" as Hitler. More evil, perhaps, but the OP asked which were more infamous, which is defined as "Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious." Hitler has the worst rep of all of them, even if he didn't kill the most.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
14,000
2
0
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: welst10
How could you guys missed Japanese WW2 prime minister Hideki Tojo, a Class A war criminal? His army killed more than Hitler did. And he didn't want to stop until after 2 A-bombs.

That's a good point, the Japanese were very ruthless and vicious in WW2. However, Stalin was killing millions of his own people, which gives him mad bonus points.

The problem w/ Stalin, the Japanese guy and all the others is that although they were brutal, neither were really as "Infamous" as Hitler. More evil, perhaps, but the OP asked which were more infamous, which is defined as "Having an exceedingly bad reputation; notorious." Hitler has the worst rep of all of them, even if he didn't kill the most.

One of the reasons Hitler was able to kill so many is because Stalin:
-made a deal with him to split up Europe
-killed most soviet generals and officers leaving USSR vulnerable
-ignored obvious signs of upcoming invasion, forcing troops to hold fire even during the attack
 

Mnementh

Golden Member
Jul 16, 2003
1,063
0
0
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I don't see Jesus Christ on the list! :confused:

That's because we're talking about people who actually existed

My vote goes to Stalin
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
16,754
64
91
Nero or Tiberius. One of them (I forget which one) would invite noble families to dinner, then take the wife back to a private room, fvck her, then come back all flush faced and discuss her prowess. If anyone made a peep they would be through down a flight of stairs. The modern guys were just effecient executioners, like death factory owners. Old emperors were really vicious, the insane ones would do really weird, creative things to fvck with people and kill them.