POLL Mankind's Future

AaronP

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I have been reading some articles at various places, and saw a show on the discovery channel about this stuff, and in like 1000 years, we'll probably have colonies all over the solar system. There will be a Mars colony, and we have the technology available today (though no-one wants to spend the money) to warm mars up and increase the atmospheric pressure enough that water will flow on mars, the atmosphere will be thick enough to block deadly radiation, and it will be warm enough that we will be able to walk around with just oxygen masks and not bulky suits. Since mars has .38 the gravity of earth, it wouldn't be that hard to build huge domes that we can breath in and grow food. And if we have enough plant life on Mars, in many thousands of years, it could become breathable.

Also, I was reading that there are some very ore and mineral rich asteroids in our solar system that could be worth billions and billions of dollars if we could mine them. This one guy, Dr. Zubrin says that in the future we will be able build huge cities of a million plus people on these asteroids and eventually, a huge solar system trade route between the asteroids, mars, and earth would be established.

My question to you guys is, would you like to leave our earth to do one of these things?
 

AaronP

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I MEANT TO SAY IF YOU COULD LIVE 1000 YEARS FROM NOW! NOT 1000 YEARS AGO. DUH.
 

Jfur

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Mankind has no future. Womankind is on the verge of being able to reproduce without you -- mwa haha! ;)
 

no0b

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<< Earth is boring. Off to Mars I go. :D >>


yea and be killed in one of the Mars uprisings jeesss didnt you watch B5
/im an ubergeek
 

Wallydraigle

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I think this is an awesome world and I wouldn't want to leave. But I'd always wonder what kinds of things are on the other worlds just waiting to be seen. It would be painful but in the end I think wonderlust would win out.
 

HOWITIS

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<< Mankind has no future. Womankind is on the verge of being able to reproduce without you -- mwa haha! >>




you would still give birth to men. besides, i don't see sexual activity dying down due to sperm banks. peeps usually go there when the old fashion way is a no go.
 

StUdMaN

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is this the same Discovery channel that predicts killer asteroids and comets and uncontrollable virus outbreaks?
if we are lucky 10000 years if the corps don't get involed
with them involved 200 years max
 

bigrash

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I believe Mankind's future is undecided right now. You see, he has left the WWF cause he wasn't happy there lately. He had a few ideas that the WWF didn't wanna use so they had a conflict. God know where he will end up. Then again, Foley is God


Oh, we're not talking about wrestling?:confused:
 

AaronP

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"I believe Mankind's future is undecided right now. You see, he has left the WWF"
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LOL that is the funnies thing I've read in like a week. It totally caught me by suprise. :) actually, not to stray off topic, but Foley is still a WWF employee isn't he? He's not an active wrestler right now, but he shows up every few months to stick a sock in someone's mouth. CACTUS JACK 4 LIFE!
 

HombrePequeno

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<< This one guy, Dr. Hubrin says that in the future we will be able build huge cities of a million plus people on these asteroids and eventually, a huge solar system trade route between the asteroids, mars, and earth would be established. >>



Are you sure you don't mean Dr. Zubrin? He wrote The Case for Mars and Entering Space which are damn good books.

To answer the question, I would probably live on Mars if I was alive in 1000 years.
 

AaronP

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dude, you are correcting me all over the place today! Yeah, Zubrin, not Hubrin. hehehe :)
 

AreaCode707

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What would your job be if you worked on an interplanetary cargo freighter exactly?
I'd stick with Earth, and the occasional moonside vacation. That's assuming we haven't completely poisoned our atmosphere by then.
 

AaronP

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"What would your job be if you worked on an interplanetary cargo freighter exactly?"
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probably a lot of masterbation.
 

Unsickle

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Zubrin is a fanatic, but he does write good books. As for wanting to live on mars, I'll leave that till after we figure out the long-term effects of 0.38g. Will bone demineralization continue unabated like it does in ug? Will it reach a steady state?

How about space suits for the first manned mars mission? Current suit technology is not designed for the rigors of planetary exploration.

I could go on and on. There are books on the subject and many research groups working on these issues.
 

Keego

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<< Live and work on a interplanetary cargo freighter >>



That would be fun.
 

HombrePequeno

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<< dude, you are correcting me all over the place today! Yeah, Zubrin, not Hubrin. hehehe >>



Well we can't have people being misinformed now can we? :)

The thing that sucks aboot terraforming Mars is that we don't know how long the atmosphere would last. Since Mars doesn't have a global magnetosphere the Sun basically tears away at the atmosphere bit by bit. We might be able to create an artificial one though.



<< Zubrin is a fanatic, but he does write good books. As for wanting to live on mars, I'll leave that till after we figure out the long-term effects of 0.38g. Will bone demineralization continue unabated like it does in ug? Will it reach a steady state?

How about space suits for the first manned mars mission? Current suit technology is not designed for the rigors of planetary exploration.

I could go on and on. There are books on the subject and many research groups working on these issues.
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Bone demineralization won't be near as bad in .38g as in 0g. You'll just adapt to the gravity. It would take a while to adapt from the Martian gravity and go back to regular Earth gravity.

From what I've read a space suit designed for Mars would be a heck of a lot more versatile than ones built for LEO.
 

Cessna172

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I definitely would want to visit Mars, but live there permanently? No. And neither would most of the folks who answered that they would. Earth beats any planet out there in our solar system by leaps and bounds. Even if we could change the planet a bit, we'd only be trying to make it more like what we already have right here: Earth. And I'm sure the novelty of traveling on a long-range spacecraft would get old REAL quick. Again, all this stuff is neat, but I'm more interested in what it will be like on Earth 1000 years from now. How far will our technology go? What will cities and transportation look like? How many FPS will I get in Quake 418 from my Geforce945 and my Pentium MCMVIIIXIXI? Stuff like that. :)
 

HombrePequeno

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<< I definitely would want to visit Mars, but live there permanently? No. And neither would most of the folks who answered that they would. Earth beats any planet out there in our solar system by leaps and bounds. Even if we could change the planet a bit, we'd only be trying to make it more like what we already have right here: Earth. And I'm sure the novelty of traveling on a long-range spacecraft would get old REAL quick. Again, all this stuff is neat, but I'm more interested in what it will be like on Earth 1000 years from now. How far will our technology go? What will cities and transportation look like? How many FPS will I get in Quake 418 from my Geforce945 and my Pentium MCMVIIIXIXI? Stuff like that. >>



In 1000 years I would definitely rather live on Mars than Earth. I wouldn't doubt that in a thousand years Earth will be a sh1thole. There won't be too many resources left on Earth in 1000 years. I guess asteroid mining will fill that hole. Pollution is fairly bad now but imagine 1000 more years of it.
 

Cessna172

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<< In 1000 years I would definitely rather live on Mars than Earth. I wouldn't doubt that in a thousand years Earth will be a sh1thole. There won't be too many resources left on Earth in 1000 years. I guess asteroid mining will fill that hole. Pollution is fairly bad now but imagine 1000 more years of it. >>



1000 years is a long time, though. We may have the technology to solve all those problems, or at least deal with them in a manner that wouldn't make life unpleasant. I thinkg making Mars a comfortable place to live is much harder to do. And the whole concept of changing the atmosphere on Mars is more far-fetched than cleaning up our own.
 

HombrePequeno

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I don't think terraforming Mars is really all that far-fetched. It may be hard to do but it would be worth it. If we just stay on Earth we have a high chance of becoming extinct. We have most of the technology to terraform Mars today but unfortunately we don't have the money to do it. Like you said 1000 years is a long time and all the technologies will become available and cheap to boot. Sure it may take 1000 years to completely terraform Mars to where we can breathe outside but I think we can stand the wait.