Poll: Low-Fat or Low-Carb

[Nutdotnet]

Nevermind the health-side of each, if you had to chose one which would you chose?

Low-Fat?
- Gotta cut out the fat, but can still eat plenty of breads, sugars, pastas, etc...etc....

Low-Carb?
- No more sodas (diet is ok), breads, candy, etc....but can eat cheese, bacon, burgers (without bun).....

Watching the Subway "wrap" commercial made me think of this.

 

[boyRacer]

low fat...

i :heart: pasta too much...

 

[Sluggo]

Are we working off the assumption that your weight will remain basically stable regardless of your selection?

If that is the case, sign me up for mass quanities of sugar. Otherwise, I have to pick low-cab.

 

[Yossarian]

low fat is healthier for you long-term, and if you monitor calories the results will be the same as or better than a low carb diet.

 

[virtuamike]

Low carb. Just stay away from the sugary stuff and white flour and you'll be fine.

 

[dighn]

no rice? that's horrible!

 

[WinkOsmosis]

How about, stop being a fat greasy slob and eat in moderate amounts? Or is it too much fun to continue your blubbery lard-ass lifestyle? What happens after all that fat is gone from the amazing Atkins diet?

 

[labrat25]

i love my bread and fruit to much to be low carb

besides, i'm veggie, so going atkins is kinda hard for me

 

[Rob9874]

I say low carb, meaning sugars and refined carbs. But I think this whole Atkins low-carb thing is a fad.

 

[Entity]

I'm a diabetic, so I have to choose low-carb. Both are health as long as they're practiced with some semblance of sanity.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
low fat is healthier for you long-term, and if you monitor calories the results will be the same as or better than a low carb diet.

There are no studies that prove that a low-carb diet is unhealthy. However, a low fat diet (w/out couting calories) is very ineffective. The main reason is that when you use low fat alternatives (i.e. Low fat, or non-fat, mayo), the vast majority of time they add sugar (as to help with the flavor), thus actually adding calories. I've done the low fat, the low calorie, and the low fat/low calorie thing... Being hungry and unsatisfied 24/7 is miserable.

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
How about, stop being a fat greasy slob and eat in moderate amounts? Or is it too much fun to continue your blubbery lard-ass lifestyle? What happens after all that fat is gone from the amazing Atkins diet?

Don't you think that it's very possible for two people to eat/exercise the EXACT same way, yet store fat very differently? I'm sure you know people that can eat like a horse and not gain weight. You have no idea how Nutdotnet (or anyone else) lives their lifestyle, but somehow you are arrogant enough to post such BS. Thanks for your opinion, a-hole... Not.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Like I said, this wasn't a health issue debate. It was simply if you had to cut out one type of food, either fatty foods are carb-loaded foods. Which would you do? The poll was design based on taste.

I see those "Atkins-friendly" wraps and they look pretty good. My brother tried one (not because he's fat and on a diet)had he liked it. Carl's Jr. has a "Low-Carb" burger now. Simply a burger wrapped in lettuce. Sounds good and I could handle that...but then again, they have a bbq-chicken burger which is very low in fat and tastes excellent.

If we want to talk about health, I've done both low-fat (when I didn't know anything about anything) and low-carb (not atkins low, but 70g-100g a day based on a 2200 calorie diet). It worked fantastically. Keep in mind, it was a "cutting" diet. I wasn't looking for massive amounts of fat loss since I wasn't overweight. I was bulking and went to a cutting diet. I've never seen myself so fit, it was great!

WinkOsmosis- I REALLY hope you weren't referring that to me....that's all I'm going to say.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Nevermind the health-side of each, if you had to chose one which would you chose?

Low-Fat?
- Gotta cut out the fat, but can still eat plenty of breads, sugars, pastas, etc...etc....

Low-Carb?
- No more sodas (diet is ok), breads, candy, etc....but can eat cheese, bacon, burgers (without bun).....

Watching the Subway "wrap" commercial made me think of this.

Eat no more than 40g of fat a day, and do your best to eat 25+g of fiber. Keep your sugar intake down, but other carbs are just fine (try to eat more whole wheat/grains though).

 

[0roo0roo]

low fat. i prefer low portion eat whatever i want.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: PipBoy
low fat is healthier for you long-term, and if you monitor calories the results will be the same as or better than a low carb diet.

There are no studies that prove that a low-carb diet is unhealthy. However, a low fat diet (w/out couting calories) is very ineffective. The main reason is that when you use low fat alternatives (i.e. Low fat, or non-fat, mayo), the vast majority of time they add sugar (as to help with the flavor), thus actually adding calories. I've done the low fat, the low calorie, and the low fat/low calorie thing... Being hungry and unsatisfied 24/7 is miserable.

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
How about, stop being a fat greasy slob and eat in moderate amounts? Or is it too much fun to continue your blubbery lard-ass lifestyle? What happens after all that fat is gone from the amazing Atkins diet?

Don't you think that it's very possible for two people to eat/exercise the EXACT same way, yet store fat very differently? I'm sure you know people that can eat like a horse and not gain weight. You have no idea how Nutdotnet (or anyone else) lives their lifestyle, but somehow you are arrogant enough to post such BS. Thanks for your opinion, a-hole... Not.

Excellent point Wingznut. One of my good friends eats like crazy (2 tubs of fried rice for dinner, coke all the time) etc, and weighs 135. Never gains a pound.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Excellent point Wingznut. One of my good friends eats like crazy (2 tubs of fried rice for dinner, coke all the time) etc, and weighs 135. Never gains a pound.

Yep, I know a couple of people like that...

One guy will eat a double monster burger at Red Robin with two helpings of fries and a couple of Cokes for lunch, all the while I sit there looking over my grilled chicken, salad, and water. Oh yeah, and I'm the one who needs to lose more weight. *sigh*


I made that point because it is inevitable that someone will enter this thread posting something like... "I exercise regularly, so I can eat whatever I want." As if what works for them will work for every person on the planet. Trust me, it doesn't...

I did that in the month of November. Went off Atkins (with the exception of drinks... Only drank water, sugar free tea, and diet soda. An occasional tall mocha from Starbucks being the only exception.) At any rate, I kept up the same exercise routine and gained 7lbs since that month.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: PipBoy
low fat is healthier for you long-term, and if you monitor calories the results will be the same as or better than a low carb diet.

There are no studies that prove that a low-carb diet is unhealthy. However, a low fat diet (w/out couting calories) is very ineffective. The main reason is that when you use low fat alternatives (i.e. Low fat, or non-fat, mayo), the vast majority of time they add sugar (as to help with the flavor), thus actually adding calories. I've done the low fat, the low calorie, and the low fat/low calorie thing... Being hungry and unsatisfied 24/7 is miserable.

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
How about, stop being a fat greasy slob and eat in moderate amounts? Or is it too much fun to continue your blubbery lard-ass lifestyle? What happens after all that fat is gone from the amazing Atkins diet?

Don't you think that it's very possible for two people to eat/exercise the EXACT same way, yet store fat very differently? I'm sure you know people that can eat like a horse and not gain weight. You have no idea how Nutdotnet (or anyone else) lives their lifestyle, but somehow you are arrogant enough to post such BS. Thanks for your opinion, a-hole... Not.

Excellent point Wingznut. One of my good friends eats like crazy (2 tubs of fried rice for dinner, coke all the time) etc, and weighs 135. Never gains a pound.

question is how old is he. once u get past 25~ then ur metabolism slows. then ur in for sh*t.

 

[Chaotic42]

I'm doing a moderate-fat, moderate-carb, low crappy carb diet (little white bread, pasta, sugar).

It isn't destroying my digestive system, so I like it already.

 

[Amused]

America became fatter than ever since the low-fat craze started in the 80s. Fat does not make you fat any more than any other source of calories, and saturated fat is bad only for people genetically predisposed to heart disease. Non-saturated fat is good for everyone.

I can't believe so many people buy into the low-fat nonsense.

Fat fills you up faster and longer than starchy and/or sugary foods, meaning you actually take in less calories and are less likely to binge.

 

[Bassyhead]

Originally posted by: boyRacer
low fat...

i :heart: pasta too much...

me too

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Amused
America became fatter than ever since the low-fat craze started in the 80s. Fat does not make you fat any more than any other source of calories, and saturated fat is bad only for people genetically predisposed to heart disease. Non-saturated fat is good for everyone.

I can't believe so many people buy into the low-fat nonsense.

Fat fills you up faster and longer than starchy and/or sugary foods, meaning you actually take in less calories and are less likely to binge.

well sorta. america got fatter when portions increased.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Amused
America became fatter than ever since the low-fat craze started in the 80s. Fat does not make you fat any more than any other source of calories, and saturated fat is bad only for people genetically predisposed to heart disease. Non-saturated fat is good for everyone.

I can't believe so many people buy into the low-fat nonsense.

Fat fills you up faster and longer than starchy and/or sugary foods, meaning you actually take in less calories and are less likely to binge.

well sorta. america got fatter when portions increased.

when did portions increase?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Amused
America became fatter than ever since the low-fat craze started in the 80s. Fat does not make you fat any more than any other source of calories, and saturated fat is bad only for people genetically predisposed to heart disease. Non-saturated fat is good for everyone.

I can't believe so many people buy into the low-fat nonsense.

Fat fills you up faster and longer than starchy and/or sugary foods, meaning you actually take in less calories and are less likely to binge.

Perfectly stated! Eating low fat to lose weight is a total crock.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Amused
America became fatter than ever since the low-fat craze started in the 80s. Fat does not make you fat any more than any other source of calories, and saturated fat is bad only for people genetically predisposed to heart disease. Non-saturated fat is good for everyone.

I can't believe so many people buy into the low-fat nonsense.

Fat fills you up faster and longer than starchy and/or sugary foods, meaning you actually take in less calories and are less likely to binge.

well sorta. america got fatter when portions increased.

America got fatter when they stopped almost all physical activity. The explosion in waist lines perfectly coincides with the popularity of cable/sat TV, video games and the Internet.

The effects of portion sizes are negligible. People will eat until they are full, whether this means buying more food, or throwing some out.

 

[Babbles]

A little of both.