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Poll: keep my permanent residence or go for citizenship?
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TommyVercetti
Diamond Member
Get the citizenship. No cons or pros.
Besides you are always a citizen of your original country. Did they deport you? No, then it doesn't matter.
Besides you are always a citizen of your original country. Did they deport you? No, then it doesn't matter.
Schadenfreude
Lifer
This is true. I had to rescind my allegience to my homeland. 🙁🙁🙁
Personally, if there's no particular reason fro you to get a citizenship, I'd say keep your permanent residency. I would've if I didn't have to.
TommyVercetti
Diamond Member
I know they do and you theoretically lose your citizenship. One could possibly go back to their original country and just act like they are a citizen. How would they ever know?
If there isn't any pressing reason, why get it?
I'm actually in the same boat myself, have started the application and now I need to decide if I'll actually go through with it or not.
They actually check to make sure you gave up your other citizenships? All the people I've talked to said they didn't have to.
I'm actually in the same boat myself, have started the application and now I need to decide if I'll actually go through with it or not.
They actually check to make sure you gave up your other citizenships? All the people I've talked to said they didn't have to.
Schadenfreude
Lifer
Like someone else said, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY CANCELLED IF YOU SWEAR IN ('it' being the previous citizenship).
Anyhoo, why aren't you talking to family members about this? How do they feel?
1) You get a US passport
2) You get to think you have a say on where your tax $$$ get spent.
3) You have a chance to go into politics and become corrupt.:evil:
4) Many government jobs require US citizenship, either directly for the government or government related
2) You get to think you have a say on where your tax $$$ get spent.
3) You have a chance to go into politics and become corrupt.:evil:
4) Many government jobs require US citizenship, either directly for the government or government related
According to US law, it automatically cancelled, however each country has a different procedure on how that is handled. US for example, I believe you actually have to declare in front of a government official (at a consulate/embassy or immigration) and declare in writing that you intend to give up your citizenship voluntarily, otherwise unless you commit treason or are put in a policy making position in a foreign government they cannot take it away. Just because it is apart of the swearing in ceremony in one country doesn't mean that it carries weight with other countries.
Many of my family's friends are naturalized and there's about a 50/50 split between those who kept dual and those that only have US. Most of them are Japanese and since Japan does not officially allow dual citizenship unlike the US it gets a bit more jumbled since Japan can just revoke your citizenship.
I've talked to my family's lawyer, he does immigration applications and stuff and handled our residency applications and extensions and he said that it isn't actually enforced anymore.
in case you're interested, the INS is no longer under the Department of Justice. It's now under the Department of Homeland Security. Reason why i mention this is, if you're a greencard holder, and not a US citizen, it probably gives the government an excuse to keep tabs on you.
There are many advantages to becoming a citizen, One of them is you cannot be deported. Do you realise that if you even get accused of comiting a crime even if not guilty you can be deported? Was not always this way but the Patriot act changed a lot of things, this being one of them.
Bleep
Bleep
Becoming a US Citizen is a priviledge. I am proud to be an American (at least in a week or so when I do the oath). The process was long, but I know its worth while.
Being of Vietnamese decent, I am not sure what a Vietnamese citizenship is worth these days. I don't know or care to know what priviledges there are to being a Citizen of Vietnam (just crappy treatment I suppose).
Being of Vietnamese decent, I am not sure what a Vietnamese citizenship is worth these days. I don't know or care to know what priviledges there are to being a Citizen of Vietnam (just crappy treatment I suppose).
STOP THE DEPORTATIONS!
13,000 Muslim, Arab and South Asian men who registered with the INS as part
of the government?s special registration program are facing deportation. The
mass interrogations, roundups, and detentions under the special registration
program represent an escalation of the racial profiling and deportations of
Muslims, Arabs, Asians, and North Africans that began after September 11, 2001.
We have already seen the greatest wave of deportations in U.S. history. This
blatant form of racial profiling conjures up memories of the Japanese-American
internment camps during WW II. The political repression aimed at foreign
nationals is part and parcel of a larger, all-encompassing repressive agenda that
includes stripping away of civil liberties and the suppression of dissent.
Together we can stop the war-time police state!
Personally, this is the most valid reason to get citizenship in the US. It is true
and written in the INS documents that the goverment can revoke your
green card or even your citizenship (if you're not naturally born here) at anytime.
13,000 Muslim, Arab and South Asian men who registered with the INS as part
of the government?s special registration program are facing deportation. The
mass interrogations, roundups, and detentions under the special registration
program represent an escalation of the racial profiling and deportations of
Muslims, Arabs, Asians, and North Africans that began after September 11, 2001.
We have already seen the greatest wave of deportations in U.S. history. This
blatant form of racial profiling conjures up memories of the Japanese-American
internment camps during WW II. The political repression aimed at foreign
nationals is part and parcel of a larger, all-encompassing repressive agenda that
includes stripping away of civil liberties and the suppression of dissent.
Together we can stop the war-time police state!
Personally, this is the most valid reason to get citizenship in the US. It is true
and written in the INS documents that the goverment can revoke your
green card or even your citizenship (if you're not naturally born here) at anytime.