POLL: Is it bad to hold your car on a hill with your clutch?

Lifer

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bad for the clutch that is.
i've been told yes and no.

lets say you're on a 20 degree incline and waiting for the light to turn green.
i'm not talking about holding it for the duration of the red, but you're anticipating the change to green so for the 2-3 seconds before the light changes, you hold the car with your clutch.
 

Viper GTS

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With the car running or not running?

When parking on a hill, always leave your car in gear + the e-brake.

If you're running, of course it's bad.

If your engine is turning, the clutch is even partly engaged, & you're not moving...

Can anyone say fried clutch?

Viper GTS
 

GasX

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engine turning @4000rpm
wheels still
clutch engaged

you just turned your clutch into a 200HP power grinder.
 

Whisper

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Yeah, it's bad. Then again, I'm too lazy to use the e-brake when moving from a red light on an incline. However, I never sit there and actually hold the car for more than a split-second...I shudder just thinking about that.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Repost....and yes it is. The clutch is being used as a brake creating heat & wear.
Ppl that do that cry the blues and bad mouth the pos car come replacement time.
Mechanics love you guys that do it. Pay me now or pay me later!

Even an auto should be put in neutral during long waits in stop & go traffic on hot days and never used for hill holding.

There will be a quiz on this at repair time :p
 

NeoPTLD

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If you don't do it for a long period of time at a time and give plenty of time before doing it again, you won't burn out the clutch, but this habit will wear it out very very fast.

 

zixxer

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Here's the thing:

If your learning how to drive a stick; then do it because the alternative is rolling back on a hill and hitting someone.

Otherwise, don't.
 

teckmaster

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
engine turning @4000rpm
wheels still
clutch engaged

you just turned your clutch into a 200HP power grinder.

If your engine is turning at 4000rpm while still, then you got more problems than just a clutch

 

Lifer

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Originally posted by: teckmaster
Originally posted by: Mwilding
engine turning @4000rpm
wheels still
clutch engaged

you just turned your clutch into a 200HP power grinder.

If your engine is turning at 4000rpm while still, then you got more problems than just a clutch

lol, how true.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: teckmaster
Originally posted by: Mwilding
engine turning @4000rpm
wheels still
clutch engaged

you just turned your clutch into a 200HP power grinder.

If your engine is turning at 4000rpm while still, then you got more problems than just a clutch
and more problems than just with the car :p

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Repost....and yes it is. The clutch is being used as a brake creating heat & wear.
Ppl that do that cry the blues and bad mouth the pos car come replacement time.
Mechanics love you guys that do it. Pay me now or pay me later!

Even an auto should be put in neutral during long waits in stop & go traffic on hot days and never used for hill holding.

There will be a quiz on this at repair time :p

There is no need to put an auto in neutral while stopped on a hill. Just keep your foot on the brake. The engine/transmission is designed to idle in gear without stalling. I wouldn't use an auto for hill holding though.
 

StageLeft

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It's fvcking awful. When I see people do that - something I've seen on several ocassions, sadly enough, I think NEWBIE. That person doesn't know how to drive and doesn't understand even the most basic thing about their transmission. It's absolutely and undeniably bad for your clutch.

In other news: Does accelerating burn more gas than idling? :evil:
 

Triumph

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Of course it's bad for your clutch to sit there and let it slip like that. It shows that you pretty much don't know how to drive a stick. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to go from braking to moving within 1/2 second or so.
 

Lifer

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Repost....and yes it is. The clutch is being used as a brake creating heat & wear.
Ppl that do that cry the blues and bad mouth the pos car come replacement time.
Mechanics love you guys that do it. Pay me now or pay me later!

Even an auto should be put in neutral during long waits in stop & go traffic on hot days and never used for hill holding.

There will be a quiz on this at repair time :p

There is no need to put an auto in neutral while stopped on a hill. Just keep your foot on the brake. The engine/transmission is designed to idle in gear without stalling. I wouldn't use an auto for hill holding though.

yankee is not talking about stalling, he's talking about damage to the auto tranny/torque converter/fluid while holding it on a hill.
 

GagHalfrunt

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VERY bad. Be nice to your clutch and it'll be nice to you. Abuse it and you'll pay the price.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Don't you kind of have to do this a little bit for a clean take off?

A little bit. Like a fraction of a second. Pretty much however long it takes to get your foot from the brake back to the gas.
 
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Originally posted by: Lifer
bad for the clutch that is.
i've been told yes and no.

lets say you're on a 20 degree incline and waiting for the light to turn green.
i'm not talking about holding it for the duration of the red, but you're anticipating the change to green so for the 2-3 seconds before the light changes, you hold the car with your clutch.

Only stupid people hold their car with the clutch that way. Yes it is bad.

 

Vic

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Clutch in or clutch out. Except for the brief half-second or so required for a clean smooth engagement, there should be no in-between.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Don't you kind of have to do this a little bit for a clean take off?

A little bit. Like a fraction of a second. Pretty much however long it takes to get your foot from the brake back to the gas.

Well I don't just pop the clutch when I get the gas...I ease it out fast while giving it more gas.