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POLL: How would you rather be taxed?

Flat rate Income tax, the only fair way to do it. Everyone should pay the excat same %, none of this redistribution of weath crap.
 
I'd like to be taxed only when I buy green veggies. Then I could effectively avoid paying taxes... Still bitter about this year's state income tax, I guess....
 


<< Flat rate Income tax, the only fair way to do it. Everyone should pay the excat same %, none of this redistribution of weath crap. >>



Poor, rich people, having to pay more taxes.
 


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<< Flat rate Income tax, the only fair way to do it. Everyone should pay the excat same %, none of this redistribution of weath crap. >>

Poor, rich people, having to pay more taxes. >>


They're not eating babies or sexing the pope to get rich. Why should they have to pay for it?
 
<<Poor, rich people, having to pay more taxes. >>

Capatalisum is what makes this country strong, go look where comunisum/socialisum got anyone who tried that approch.
 
It's only the lazy bums who resent the rich for having put in time and effort to get where they wanted to be. The lazy bums would hate for the rich to stop supporting them so much.
 


<< Poor, rich people, having to pay more taxes >>



Hey I dont mind paying taxes too much, but why should the lower 1/2 of income earners get almost a free ride when it comes to taxes? Why should they pay no taxes and get an equal vote when it comes to creating govt spending?

 
I think the people who gets hit the hardest with progressive tax is the middle class people, not the rich. I remember reading somewhere that there are over 100+ deductions and claims that people can file to significantly reduce the tax they pay. But most of these are aim for RICH people, like donating 100,000 to charity or writing off personal stuff as business expenses, like buying a car or condo. Poor people get welfare checks and barely pay any taxes. Its the middle class people that's stuck with paying the full amount due.

Therefore it would be extremely unfair if the US was change to a flat rate tax. Rich people would pay almost nothing after deductions and claims while everyone else pay the same.

One other thing I want to mention...the average person's income fall under the 28%-33% category. Let's assume that there are 10% of people in the US that are rich. If the flat rate for everyone is 35%, it would only benefit 10% of the people while the other 90% have to pay MORE taxes.
 


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<< Poor, rich people, having to pay more taxes. >>

I really feel for them too. >>

So you resent rich people? Do you not appreciate the fact that they pay for the services you use?
 
I say a flat tax, with a serious redesign/cutting back in the amount of deductions that one can claim.

Oh, also, lets start with freeing up 14% of my salary by letting me invest in my own retirement plan!
 


<< I think the people who gets hit the hardest with progressive tax is the middle class people, not the rich. I remember reading somewhere that there are over 100+ deductions and claims that people can file to significantly reduce the tax they pay. But most of these are aim for RICH people, like donating 100,000 to charity or writing off personal stuff as business expenses, like buying a car or condo. Poor people get welfare checks and barely pay any taxes. Its the middle class people that's stuck with paying the full amount due.

Therefore it would be extremely unfair if the US was change to a flat rate tax. Rich people would pay almost nothing after deductions and claims while everyone else pay the same.

One other thing I want to mention...the average person's income fall under the 28%-33% category. Let's assume that there are 10% of people in the US that are rich. If the flat rate for everyone is 35%, it would only benefit 10% of the people while the other 90% have to pay MORE taxes. >>

In a thread last night tripleshot said this:

>>>>And if you think people can evade taxes now, the rich have the resources to easily evade a flat sales tax.<<<<

Pull your head out. You have the same access to loopholes as the fat cats. I know, I am into financial planning for a very large firm who does for the average 30k/yr as much as what the corporate CEO 8 figure guy can get in relationship to earned income. You would be surprised at the many ways to build wealth.

Taxes are only neccesary to fund the services we have come accustomed to, like good highways, transportation integerity by sea,aitr or land, water quality protection,air quality protection, resource protection,and the defense of the nation. Of course, a whole host of other "administrative" fees are attached, but you should mostly squeal about the pork barrel spending and lobbiest garnered handouts that chump politicains pander too on a routine basis.

Ain't America grand?
 
Get rid of the income tax and switch to a national sales tax.
It's less intrusive, requires less paperwork and tax code (so it's simpler), and is absolutely fair.
 


<< Do you not appreciate the fact that they pay for the services you use? >>

No, I just feel bad for them because of the taxes they have to pay. It's just horrible. Oh no! I'm out of kleenex.
 


<< How about not the hell at all? >>



Yup, that's the one, right there.

Seriously, I think that it should be flat. Why should I have to pay for people that don't want to pay for themself?
 


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<< Do you not appreciate the fact that they pay for the services you use? >>

No, I just feel bad for them because of the taxes they have to pay. It's just horrible. Oh no! I'm out of kleenex. >>

Blah, whatever. They made the money. They employed your parents. Don't be so resentful.
 
Pull your head out. You have the same access to loopholes as the fat cats. I know, I am into financial planning for a very large firm who does for the average 30k/yr as much as what the corporate CEO 8 figure guy can get in relationship to earned income. You would be surprised at the many ways to build wealth.

Not sure if this is your quote or you're quoting the other guy...but how can I, for example, donate 100,000 to charity so I can write it off if I don't have that much? Sure, everyone has "access" to loopholes, but most of these people do not have money to fully utilize them like rich people can.
 


<< Pull your head out. You have the same access to loopholes as the fat cats. I know, I am into financial planning for a very large firm who does for the average 30k/yr as much as what the corporate CEO 8 figure guy can get in relationship to earned income. You would be surprised at the many ways to build wealth.

Not sure if this is your quote or you're quoting the other guy...but how can I, for example, donate 100,000 to charity so I can write it off if I don't have that much? Sure, everyone has "access" to loopholes, but most of these people do not have money to fully utilize them like rich people can. >>

It wasn't my quote - it was Tripleshot's. I really shouldn't sit here and try and argue his points without him; I'm merely stating what he said. Are you aware that if you are making $10 million a year and paying $5 million a year in taxes you're paying about 50%? Now remember this when I say that if you write off $100k you don't pay taxes on that. You've now saved 50% on the $100k. That is $50k. You've paid $100k to save $50k, so do you see that writing off things like this doesn't benefit you if you're interested in maximizing your money? You can pay money to charities as well as anybody else and that donation is tax free - it is not FREE though and since your taxes are not 100% you end up losing out. Too many people don't seem to understand the basics of what a write-off is.
 
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