POLL: How long until broadband movies are cracked?

teddymines

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Article about broadband movies

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The anticipated online movies-on-demand venture formed by five major Hollywood studios was launched Monday, marking the first time a large supply of recent, popular films are available legally on the Internet.

The effort, called Movielink, allows people to download films over a high-speed Internet connection. It is the industry's alternative to the distribution of pirated films over peer-to-peer computer networks ? services such as Napster (news - web sites) that threatened the music industry.


Seeing how quickly adobe was cracked, how long until this technology is breached?
 

alm99

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I didn't click on the link, but isn't this when the movie plays in the browser, but can't download? I think this was already cracked
 

IamDavid

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Originally posted by: alm99
I didn't click on the link, but isn't this when the movie plays in the browser, but can't download? I think this was already cracked

Nope, this is different. It will be cracked soon after launch though..
 

teddymines

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To set the record straight, I'm not endorsing pirating. There is a continuous battle between those producing material and charging for its consumption, and those who try to thwart that business model. I predict the rapid exchanges between business and crackers will push technology too quickly for the bulk of consumers, they will lose interest trying to keep up, and the business models will fail. Who wants to have to download patches and buy decoder hardware every few weeks just to be able to download and watch movies?

You have an entire culture out to crack and exploit protection. How can any business make a claim that their protection scheme cannot be broken?
 

Kev

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I don't see what the point of cracking them will be, since nowadays high-quality DVD rips of movies are released months ahead of their street date.
 

rh71

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Nobody has said anything about HOW the protection would work and HOW the file will actually be deleted automatically... I don't mean - tell me the encryption method, but I don't see how a real media or windows media file can be protected/deleted automatically. Just curious...
 

If we can figure out how to save streaming .rm files when we're not supposed to, this should be a piece of cake.
 

Anubis

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Yea we CAN save streaming .Rm and .AVIs just by uninstallin the player that they use. they just save to yoru temp folder. this is how we got all the simpsons off of streamload 2 years ago. if it works anything like that then its cracked from the get go
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: rh71
Nobody has said anything about HOW the protection would work and HOW the file will actually be deleted automatically... I don't mean - tell me the encryption method, but I don't see how a real media or windows media file can be protected/deleted automatically. Just curious...

There is a software manager that is required, it controls the files.

I'd give it a few weeks, tops.

Viper GTS
 

BeauJangles

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I say it will take a rather long time to crack. Think about it. The movies are 500 mb, "roughly equivalent [in quality] to VHS." Movies that are available online, that have been released from real movie release groups, are at least DVD quality, and can be burned to a DVD and watched in some players. They offer the same quality a DVD would (with the exception of sound). Why bother cracking this, which has inferior picture quality, when most groups release movies that are of higher quality already?
 

teddymines

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I have a feeling the player on your machine will have a serial number that is sent to the provider upon movie request, and the movie is encrypted in such a way that only your player can view it. Expiration will probably be done by the viewer, which looks for a certain encryption key + date value.

Regardless, capturing the output is trivial. Encryption can be broken with time.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS

There is a software manager that is required, it controls the files.

I'd give it a few weeks, tops.

Viper GTS


Did I miss this in all the articles about it ?