Poll Finds More Americans think Invasion of Iraq will increase risk of Anti-US terror

[tnitsuj]

From ABCNEWS.COM

 

[Schadenfroh]

making alot more people mad at you always reduces the risk of terror

 

[Bowfinger]

Duh! Like I said in another thread, invading and occupying an Islamic country is a criminally stupid approach to reducing terrorism.

 

[Moonbeam]

You can fight terror with truth and sincere efforts to improve the conditions that breed it or you can succumb to the dark side and attempt to become the bigger barbarian.

 

[Evadman]

I think it would be easier if the US just took over the world.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Evadman
I think it would be easier if the US just took over the world.

I think that's pretty much what many neo-cons fantasize about. Or atleast all the Muslim countries with NK thrown in for a drop of diversity.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Evadman
I think it would be easier if the US just took over the world.

well, at least then all the wars would be civil.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Evadman
I think it would be easier if the US just took over the world.

Probably not, Iraq is but a 7/11(perhaps a Normal sized shopping Mall) in Los Angeles compare to the World.

 

[DealMonkey]

Why would invading Iraq ever reduce terrorism? I don't get it...

 

[tcsenter]

Poll Finds More Americans think Invasion of Iraq will increase risk of Anti-US terror

Followed by: Poll finds 80% of Americans can't find Iraq on a map

or

Poll finds 50% of Americans can't find America on a map

So take it for what that's worth.

Why would invading Iraq ever reduce terrorism? I don't get it...

Lifting the sanctions on Iraq and pulling US forces out of the Muslim Holy Lands, two of three grievances repeatedly cited by Bin Laden and Islamic extremists, would undeniably go a long way toward delegitimizing these grievances within the Muslim world and making them ring hollow.

I'm sure that Bin Laden citing 'The Infidel has freed Iraq from a dictator and the Iraqi people once again have hope of freedom and prosperity' will infuriate the Muslim world. It sure infuriates many Bush haters.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Why would invading Iraq ever reduce terrorism? I don't get it...

Because the people who we are realy fighting against are not realy the people most people envision.

These people (not the populations) are fanatical about their own power. The leaders are rich and well educated. They are not freedom fighters or people pissed off about the injustices that the west has wroght on their country, they are people that actually spent a great deal of time in the west and lots of them actually attented higher level colleges here in the United States. They were able to afford this because they are rich, born rich and powerfull and they want it to stay that way.

They use the oil to keep themselves rich and exploit the populations under them and do there best to keep them in a 15th century mentality. A undeducated goat hearder is a much easier person to control and use then if he could leave the country at will and get educated and be able to afford technologies that make it easy to improve their lives.

However you have the side effect of creating a great deal of suffering for your people by exploiting them so thouroghly. They want answers and in actuality they are quite powerfull and could overthrough their own countries easily if they realised what was going on.

So the rulers make certain that from the day that they are born that they are told that all there problems originate from the west in areas like Isreal, Europe, and America. They are then able to recruite some young and gulible people (before they get to old to figure out what is going on and get jaded to the whole thing) to do terrorist happenings to keep the publicity alive and make it look like its a big struggle.

A sort of middle eastern version of "wag the dog".

You see terrorism was popular in Isreal for a while. Isreal had very draconion gun laws inherited from the british and terrorists knew that they could walk into any public place and gun people down and nobody could do anything about it. This was until Isreal removed the laws and encouraged the populations to carry effective weapons. Then when ever terrorist would show up at a public place they would be killed/or disarmed in short order. Isreal then used ex-terrorists to track down their leaders and assinate them. For a while it work and terrorism actually died down quite a bit.

(one thing that people don't realise is that arab people are welcome and actually hold high elected offices in the government their. In political races the arabic vote is followed and is considured quite important to the outcomes)

But eventually they hit on the idea of "suicide bombers" and the whole 17 virgins bit. Then they young idiots would just blow themselves up or get gunned down immediately and their wouldn't be any way to track them back to the leaders that are financing them. All the evidence was then a mushy pile of red ooze.

That's why invading Iraq is going to lower terrorism. Before wars ever since the civil war wars were "total". Entire populations would fight each other. But now when we go to war we go after the leaders first. Now that they understand that they can't hide behind populations, and their natural cowardance is showing up. Ever notice how we are getting a lot more cooraperation from the surrounding governments? It make it easer to route out the hardcore guys if the local governments don't actively support them.

In the 50-60's we tried assination to fight these guys, but we couldn't tell if the guy replacing them would be worse. Now everybody thinks were serious because they think we won't just take out the leader, but all the people who would be able to replace him.

(As far as korea goes, they are just bluster. They do this crap every few years just to hear themselves yell. After all they can't realy piss us off to much or we'd pull the plug on the billions and billions of dollars in food aid we give them every year. There goes the "million man" army.)

As far as the local populations go, I think that they realy don't care. In there mind at worst they would be just exchanging one group of exploiting government people for another one, just from farther away. The hard part is just convincing them that we realy want to help and not just go thru the motions occasionally like their previous rulers.