Poll: feasible? Do ya think it can work?

monstercameron

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Does anyone think that the xbox one could also be sold as a desktop pc?

my thoughts; the xbox one has decent performance over all for things like gaming, word processors, browsing, video editing etc. so would it make sense for MS to open up the market place to more productivity style apps[vs multimedia]. A super cheap, low power desktop with the same specs so everyone can have the same experience.

Clarification, this isn't about legacy software. I envision a winrt like platform lock [Gaben's worst nightmare] to the MS software store. The software would be specifically designed for the hardware's eccentricities.
 
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SPBHM

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it would probably work well enough as a desktop... a lot better than the previous gen consoles because of the memory,
most PCs now still have 8GB, while the previous gen had 512MB (or 256) while most PCs had 1GB or more.

but I don't see it happening.
 

AnandThenMan

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Absolutely yes but it won't happen because the hardware is subsidized and has at least some guaranteed income after the hardware purchase. Can't count on that if it's sold as a standalone product.
 

Yuriman

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8 core tablet CPU = wary

I'm sure it would be usable, but things that aren't properly hardware accelerated (e.g. Netflix site) would likely be choppy on the Xbone hardware. Guild Wars 2, for example would be completely unplayable; a 2.4GHz Core2Quad is unpleasant in that game, and I believe the cat cores have slightly less IPC, and 25% lower clocks. You can probably forget about any native PC MMO. Minecraft wouldn't be smooth either, unless you used a native app.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, just about any modern high budget game would probably be borderline unplayable without specific optimizations.

An i7 clocked around 1GHz would probably be a fair approximation, if anyone wants to do any testing.

EDIT2: For day to day use, it would be a small step above the Atom/Kabini desktops BestBuy has for ~$200. It still has a conventional hard drive, and 8 cores probably isn't much help. Because of the slow CPU, it won't be a very good gaming machine, and the GPU is wasted in most everything else.
 
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monstercameron

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8 core tablet CPU = wary

I'm sure it would be usable, but things that aren't properly hardware accelerated (e.g. Netflix site) would likely be choppy on the Xbone hardware. Guild Wars 2, for example would be completely unplayable; a 2.4GHz Core2Quad is unpleasant in that game, and I believe the cat cores have slightly less IPC, and 25% lower clocks. You can probably forget about any native PC MMO. Minecraft wouldn't be smooth either, unless you used a native app.

maybe you misunderstood me, Ill update op.
I mean going forward and having software designed for it. uhm like minecraft lol!

clarification xbone does have a native minecraft client. netflix has a native windows app and runs flawlessy in chrome on my hp stream 14. the hp stream 14 has four 1.2 ghz puma cores
 
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Yuriman

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Gotcha, so basically, providing a web browser and ability to install select PC applications onto it?

It's still basically Atom/Bobcat on a conventional hard drive, though with generous RAM.
 

monstercameron

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Gotcha, so basically, providing a web browser and ability to install select PC applications onto it?

It's still basically Atom/Bobcat on a conventional hard drive, though with generous RAM.

pretty much. but with software designed specifically for the hardware. it has other applications too like hdmi video capture, video streaming[read twitch], video transcoding. The accelerators can help augment the horsepower of the cpu cores and with solutions like hsa[i believe that the xbone is has compliant] or atleast gpu compute, it should do fine for a variety of workloads.
 

Yuriman

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Lots of slow CPU cores doesn't make a ton of sense to me, since (as I understand it) much code that can be easily parallelized can probably be offloaded onto dedicated hardware (GPU). Streaming/transcoding/capture can probably be CPU-free. Might have been better to have gone with 4 slightly faster cores, and a few extra CUs to do that kind of processing?
 

monstercameron

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Lots of slow CPU cores doesn't make a ton of sense to me, since (as I understand it) much code that can be easily parallelized can probably be offloaded onto dedicated hardware (GPU). Streaming/transcoding/capture can probably be CPU-free. Might have been better to have gone with 4 slightly faster cores, and a few extra CUs to do that kind of processing?

that is a can of worms we dont need in this thread...http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2415228
 

Yuriman

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For my needs, Kabini isn't sufficient. I'd give such a machine to my dad, but he wouldn't need the GPU, and I'd put an SSD in it.