But most people are still going to get a seperate card regardless. People here are ditching Sound Blaster Live! 5.1's for Philips Accoustic Edges, Votex 2's for Live!'s, etc. Hardware enthusiasts like to tinker with hardware and switch things out. If they start building everything into the motherboard it takes the fun out of the hobby (after all, if we just wanted a working system not to complain about Dell and Gateway are available). I for one love the fact that the SB Live! has one of the lowest cpu usage ratings of any of the cards out (from my CPU I need all the speed I can get). Most of the onboard sound cards HEAVILY use the cpu when playing audio.