POLL: Do you think we're in a recession yet?

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Unemployment has had its greatest bump in seven years, wholesale inflation its largest hike in 26 years, the djia down 10% from its high worse than expected Christmas sales, and pleas for the fed to cut rates immediately, what do you think?
 

FoBoT

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my company is fixin' to layoff people for the first time in 10+ years

too many people have too much debt so spending it going to drop as unemployment continues to rise
 

Wreckem

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Going by the technical definition of a recession? NO.

Are we headed for one? Yes.
 

Jaskalas

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For some frame of reference: Subprime Nation

Yes, this crisis has begun. Our bankrupt policies will begin to severely afflict this nation and its people. The only thing we're doing now is trying to sell ourselves to the world. Even if that works and staves off this current plunge, I am going to guarantee that we won?t change our bankrupt policies and we will send ourselves right back over the edge.

Be it this year or four years from now, this is a crisis unlike anything since the great depression.
 

LegendKiller

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No, I do not think we are in a recession yet, but I firmly believe we will be in one by the end of the year.
 

narcotic

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I voted not yet but pretty soon.
Unemployment goes up, USD is losing ground compared to other world leading currencies, stock markets with red numbers etc. etc. its a one way train.
Hope you have enough saved. Probably will be better in a couple of years though, its a simple economic cycle.
However, if we pick up a war or something major like that, it'll boost the economy, bad times to be an Iranian I guess..
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: narcotic
However, if we pick up a war or something major like that, it'll boost the economy, bad times to be an Iranian I guess..

Very much doubt that we'll have another war.
 

NoStateofMind

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Yes I do.

I know the housing market is crap. I know many people wanting to move into their new place at the retirement community I work at but can't because their houses are not being sold.

Prices are inflating on everything from food to toilet paper.

I know many people who are putting in applications are various places and have yet to receive a call.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

Jaskalas makes bold statements - unfortunately, they are often far too simplistic as well.

On that note, I don't think many people even know what actually defines a recession.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?

all numbers put us at positve growth last quarter (Q4-07). That would mean it's impossible for us to currently be in a recession.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?

all numbers put us at positve growth last quarter (Q4-07). That would mean it's impossible for us to currently be in a recession.

Jaskalas just proved my point :p
 

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?

all numbers put us at positve growth last quarter (Q4-07). That would mean it's impossible for us to currently be in a recession.
A recession is two contracting quarters, so you are right. I suppose in the grand sense I meant "Do you think this will be the first quarter of the two required to define a recession"?.

But, is a recession what happens after the two shrinking quarters, or does a recession start the second the GDP starts to shrink, and it's only later defined as one, in which case we could very well and factually be in a recession this very minute?

 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?

all numbers put us at positve growth last quarter (Q4-07). That would mean it's impossible for us to currently be in a recession.
A recession is two contracting quarters, so you are right. I suppose in the grand sense I meant "Do you think this will be the first quarter of the two required to define a recession"?.

But, is a recession what happens after the two shrinking quarters, or does a recession start the second the GDP starts to shrink, and it's only later defined as one, in which case we could very well and factually be in a recession this very minute?

A recession is defined in arrears after the 2nd quarter's GDP numbers are released. It is impossible for us to be in a recession right now, the only time it will be possible will be the close of business on June 30th 2008. The reason why it's defined as two quarters is that you need to show a trend, not just a 1-time spurt. Additionally, it's defined as the whole quarter, not just a part of one, since you could, and often do, have negative growth for a day, week, or month, but often (or most) times end the quarter positive.

 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: woodie1
Don't think so now but will be soon.

Those of you saying ?soon?. You think the DOW is going to recover this quarter?

When was the last time anybody measured a recession by the Dow? Please point to historical references.

You?re right, so how is the GDP looking?

all numbers put us at positve growth last quarter (Q4-07). That would mean it's impossible for us to currently be in a recession.

I basically already said that but people dont listen to me.