Poll: Do you need help with women?

[DJFuji]

Let's say in the year 2159 scientists finally, definitively discover "what women want". They decipher the girl code and now know exactly how to be successful with women. From meet to sex to relationships. Not the current self-help/relationship bullsh!t being preached by some nerdy, anti social 50 year old PhD, but actual results proven and tested by these scientists themselves.

Now let's say these scientists decide to give classes on this but it would be expensive and the process to learning the secrets would take years to master. In short, it wouldn't be a quick fix. It would take tons of dedication, sweat, blood, and tears.

Would you consider it? Do you think you need it? Moreover, do you honestly think you'd be able to put aside your ego and attend a class that society still condems as "something only losers do"?

 

[DJFuji]

i cant believe no one has responded to this.

 

[chambersc]

damn right i'd take this class.

to clarrify, I don't need help with women but I would do it out of sheer curiousity.

 

[MotionMan]

I would totally take that class (if I can clear it with my wife).



MotionMan

 

[spaceghost21]

Not a man on earth doesn't!

 

[AbAbber2k]

No. If it was a day/week-long seminar that taught you how to lay ANY woman in say a couple hours of work or less... then yes. But otherwise, what you described is basically how anyone learns to deal with women/society/anything. You go out, you take chances, you fail, you suck it up, and you try again. It takes time, but you learn, and you don't spend a penny in the process. Years to master? I'm no "player," infact I still have issues with my nerves around women, but I still get laid often enough that "years" of classes would be a complete waste of time and money. Just start hanging around people who are better with women than you are... something is bound to rub off on you. :roll:

Oh, and there are already free classes like that out there. Leykis 101. That guy cracks me up, but he's honest and he knows what he's talkin about.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Man, if I knew exactly what to do, it would take all the fun out of it.

 

[MulLa]

Does that mean there'll be a decrease in the number of YAGT at ATOT?? Nooooooooo....

 

[BrokenVisage]

in before Airsofter

 

[mrrman]

its the women who need the help

 

[FoBoT]

i have been married 18 years, i think it is too late for a "class"

 

[DrPizza]

No two women have the exact same "wants." Thus, the class would be pointless.

 

[DAGTA]

1. Be Rich
2. Be Tall
3. Have a large penis
4. Be handsome.


Meet those four steps and you won't have any trouble getting women.

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
No. If it was a day/week-long seminar that taught you how to lay ANY woman in say a couple hours of work or less... then yes. But otherwise, what you described is basically how anyone learns to deal with women/society/anything. You go out, you take chances, you fail, you suck it up, and you try again. It takes time, but you learn, and you don't spend a penny in the process. Years to master? I'm no "player," infact I still have issues with my nerves around women, but I still get laid often enough that "years" of classes would be a complete waste of time and money. Just start hanging around people who are better with women than you are... something is bound to rub off on you. :roll:

Oh, and there are already free classes like that out there. Leykis 101. That guy cracks me up, but he's honest and he knows what he's talkin about.

Waste of time and money? Most men go their entire lives without being much more than "mediocre" with women. If all it took was time and experience, every grandfather would be a mack daddy.

Leykis 101 is no different from all the PhDs who claim to be "experts" in dating and relationships. Most of them couldnt approach a woman in a bar to save their life. I'm talking about a situation where someone could produce proven, real world results. if someone had the answer, we'd know it by now.

Originally posted by: DrPizza
No two women have the exact same "wants." Thus, the class would be pointless.

This is a hypothetical situation. Stop being difficult.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: DJFuji

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
No. If it was a day/week-long seminar that taught you how to lay ANY woman in say a couple hours of work or less... then yes. But otherwise, what you described is basically how anyone learns to deal with women/society/anything. You go out, you take chances, you fail, you suck it up, and you try again. It takes time, but you learn, and you don't spend a penny in the process. Years to master? I'm no "player," infact I still have issues with my nerves around women, but I still get laid often enough that "years" of classes would be a complete waste of time and money. Just start hanging around people who are better with women than you are... something is bound to rub off on you. :roll:

Oh, and there are already free classes like that out there. Leykis 101. That guy cracks me up, but he's honest and he knows what he's talkin about.

Waste of time and money? Most men go their entire lives without being much more than "mediocre" with women. If all it took was time and experience, every grandfather would be a mack daddy.

Leykis 101 is no different from all the PhDs who claim to be "experts" in dating and relationships. Most of them couldnt approach a woman in a bar to save their life. I'm talking about a situation where someone could produce proven, real world results. if someone had the answer, we'd know it by now.

Originally posted by: DrPizza
No two women have the exact same "wants." Thus, the class would be pointless.

This is a hypothetical situation. Stop being difficult.

I'm not a fan of Leykis. The guy is a major ass. However, he's dead on for shallow women (which is the majority of women out there). His tips WILL work if all you want is sex. If you're looking for something more meaningful, ignore Leykis and prepare for massive amounts of disappointment in your search.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
1. Be Rich
2. Be Tall and rich
3. Have a large penis and you betta make sure it's got its own bank account and that it's rich!
4. Be handsome and be able to go rich just by being handsome.


Meet those four steps and you won't have any trouble getting women.

fixed

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'm not a fan of Leykis. The guy is a major ass. However, he's dead on for shallow women (which is the majority of women out there). His tips WILL work if all you want is sex. If you're looking for something more meaningful, ignore Leykis and prepare for massive amounts of disappointment in your search.

That's actually a really good point that I should have made. BUT, many of his "rules" and whatnot are still applicable to someone looking for something more serious/longterm. Things like appearing unavailable or wanted by others instantly make you more attractive. Pandering to a woman and giving her all the attention she wants and then some when you first meet is a good way to send her running. I also agree with not spending much money on a women until the relationship is serious. Why drop money on someone you barely know? There are plenty of fun things you can do without spending an arm and a leg. Not to mention, fancy dinners-out stink of sexual desperation when you've just met someone. Anyway, personally, Leykis is more of an entertaining guilty pleasure to me. I'd feel awful if I treated a woman like sh1t. Hell, I feel bad enough just accepting a number from a girl who's into me if I have no interest in her.

As for DJFuji... you couldn't be further from the truth. It IS about time and experience. Every grandfather isn't a "mack daddy" as you put it because they met someone, got lucky (in more than one sense), got married (possibly not their first gf) and then they got OLD. They had no reason to improve their "game." Not to mention older generations were lucky enough to grow up with girls who were taught a completely different value system. However, if you can't even walk up to a girl you're interested in and make conversation, then you DO need to work on your game. And you CAN get better, but only if you have the balls to TRY. It's simply developing social skills, but in the context of communicating with WOMEN. I've been introverted my whole life. When you're introverted, you tend to be less socialized than your peers, and that just makes dealing with women even harder. But I went out, made more friends, met women, tried, failed, and kept trying. Eventually it paid off. Moping around wishing you had some magic pill/class/whatever to turn you into a player, however, is NOT going to improve your game.

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'm not a fan of Leykis. The guy is a major ass. However, he's dead on for shallow women (which is the majority of women out there). His tips WILL work if all you want is sex. If you're looking for something more meaningful, ignore Leykis and prepare for massive amounts of disappointment in your search.

That's actually a really good point that I should have made. BUT, many of his "rules" and whatnot are still applicable to someone looking for something more serious/longterm. Things like appearing unavailable or wanted by others instantly make you more attractive. Pandering to a woman and giving her all the attention she wants and then some when you first meet is a good way to send her running. I also agree with not spending much money on a women until the relationship is serious. Why drop money on someone you barely know? There are plenty of fun things you can do without spending an arm and a leg. Not to mention, fancy dinners-out stink of sexual desperation when you've just met someone. Anyway, personally, Leykis is more of an entertaining guilty pleasure to me. I'd feel awful if I treated a woman like sh1t. Hell, I feel bad enough just accepting a number from a girl who's into me if I have no interest in her.

As for DJFuji... you couldn't be further from the truth. It IS about time and experience. Every grandfather isn't a "mack daddy" as you put it because they met someone, got lucky (in more than one sense), got married (possibly not their first gf) and then they got OLD. They had no reason to improve their "game." Not to mention older generations were lucky enough to grow up with girls who were taught a completely different value system. However, if you can't even walk up to a girl you're interested in and make conversation, then you DO need to work on your game. And you CAN get better, but only if you have the balls to TRY. It's simply developing social skills, but in the context of communicating with WOMEN. I've been introverted my whole life. When you're introverted, you tend to be less socialized than your peers, and that just makes dealing with women even harder. But I went out, made more friends, met women, tried, failed, and kept trying. Eventually it paid off. Moping around wishing you had some magic pill/class/whatever to turn you into a player, however, is NOT going to improve your game.

So basically youre saying:

1) "Are you kidding? I dont need that crap"

We didn't need that whole paragraph long soapbox lecture when you could have just said "i chose the first one."

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

1. Listen to her
2. Love her
3. Support her
4. Be honest to a degree
5. If she asks if she's fat, say no.
6. If she is fat, try to encourage her to go to the gym with you
7. Women are very insecure about their bodies, tell and show them they are beautiful as much as you can.
8. If you're looking for a real woman, don't pretend to have a certain amount of money. If you do, live simple. If a woman is really interested in who you are money will have no bearing on her decision.
9. Women hate subwoofers.
10. You don't need a class. Just date women for six months or less at a time. That'll give you a short but sweet lesson about women.

 

[DJFuji]

Now what i wonder is how many people who SAY they'd be able to put aside the ego could actually DO it.

 

[BD2003]

This kind of thing can't be taught in class.

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: BD2003
This kind of thing can't be taught in class.

Do me a favor and look up "hypothetical" in the dictionary.

 

[DaShen]

What Women Want? :roll:

I will let you guys on a little secret. Nice girls want basically the same kinds of things as guys do in a relationship (companionship, feelings of love, physical...), they just want it expressed differently. I signify "nice" because some girls are a little too damaged to even consider dating in my book.

Man, you guys really overanalyze this stuff. I would say that many of you guys can't even name a girl you have a decent friendship with, where you could hang out. I said decent, not close. You don't have to have super close friendships with the opposite sex to know how to talk to them and how to be sensitive to how you treat them. Try building genuine friendships with girls and you will realize that they are human just like the other gender. After that, things will come easily and you won't really have to analyze it. Rather you will just know.

 

[blue1friday2]

Originally posted by: DaShen
What Women Want? :roll:

I will let you guys on a little secret. Nice girls want basically the same kinds of things as guys do in a relationship (companionship, feelings of love, physical...), they just want it expressed differently. I signify "nice" because some girls are a little too damaged to even consider dating in my book.

Man, you guys really overanalyze this stuff. I would say that many of you guys can't even name a girl you have a decent friendship with, where you could hang out. I said decent, not close. You don't have to have super close friendships with the opposite sex to know how to talk to them and how to be sensitive to how you treat them. Try building genuine friendships with girls and you will realize that they are human just like the other gender. After that, things will come easily and you won't really have to analyze it. Rather you will just know.

Excellent response. I would add only that we can't be learned... there is no equivalent of your car's owner's manual for individual human beings.

 

[Lola]

Want to know what women want? I will teach a class to anyone... 50$ a person only for the entire 4 week course.