Poll: Do you believe in hypnotism?
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well if it doesnt work then how do you explain people barking, jumping around and doing all other kinds of weird things at those hypnose shows...
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IMO, it is an act... I suppose you think that magic is real also? Looks can be deceiving you know...
So, basically they are paid to humiliate themselves in front of an audience...
So, basically they are paid to humiliate themselves in front of an audience...
It does exist, but it only works for a small group of people, i.e. not everyone can be hypnotized. It's not like you can hypnotize anyone and let that person do everything you want. The only thing you accomplish with hypnotism (when the subject is totally and not partly hypnotized) is that the 'higher' circuits in the brain are 'shutdown', like self-awareness. It's like the brain is partly in 'sleep'-mode.
In this state, you can command the person to behave like a dog (barf, role over, play dead) or other 'funny' stuff, but you can not make that person wound or kill him or herself (jump off a cliff, put a knife to his/her hand). Some subjects can be commanded to kill or wound somebody or damage something, while others will resist those commands.
But again, it depends totally on the person how far he or she will go when hypnotized or whether s/he can even be hypnotized.
In this state, you can command the person to behave like a dog (barf, role over, play dead) or other 'funny' stuff, but you can not make that person wound or kill him or herself (jump off a cliff, put a knife to his/her hand). Some subjects can be commanded to kill or wound somebody or damage something, while others will resist those commands.
But again, it depends totally on the person how far he or she will go when hypnotized or whether s/he can even be hypnotized.
When I was very young, my aunt who was seven years older and Mom and I went to a show where she, my aunt, was hypnotized to take a shower. She washed herself right there on stage fully clothed with no water running in an imaginary shower. I don't know why, but I know she wasn't paid or that she was part of an act.
The interesting question to me is why do I have the feeling that I can't be hypnotized, why do I suspect hypnotism; is it a fear of loss of control thing? Also, if hypnotism doesn't work, why is man such an obviously, obviously once you begin to look, conditioned animal. Ckearly the last fronteer isn't space, really, but who and what we are.
The interesting question to me is why do I have the feeling that I can't be hypnotized, why do I suspect hypnotism; is it a fear of loss of control thing? Also, if hypnotism doesn't work, why is man such an obviously, obviously once you begin to look, conditioned animal. Ckearly the last fronteer isn't space, really, but who and what we are.
<< The interesting question to me is why do I have the feeling that I can't be hypnotized, why do I suspect hypnotism; is it a fear of loss of control thing? >>
Yes, a fear of loss of control plays a big role in this, but some people just can't be hypnotized. The magic word here is self-control.
<< Also, if hypnotism doesn't work, why is man such an obviously, obviously once you begin to look, conditioned animal. >>
Because we are subject to learning processes. We learn how to accomplish something and will keep repeating the same actions to accomplish it again. Just like with other animals, those learning processes can be influenced, either by an external source (environment) or an internal source (yourself). Again, an important factor here is self-control. A strong-willed (thus with a lot of self-control) is hard to influence and he or she will find his/her own way. Of course, there are two kinds of strong-willed persons: closed-minded/ignorant persons and those who can see things more 'clearly' than others can.
Isn't there something where while being hypnotized you won't do anything that you wouldn't normally do in regular life? Therefore, the whole barking like a dog thing is crapola?
<< Isn't there something where while being hypnotized you won't do anything that you wouldn't normally do in regular life? Therefore, the whole barking like a dog thing is crapola? >>
so you cant do any barking noises??
kami
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<< IMO, it is an act... I suppose you think that magic is real also? Looks can be deceiving you know...
So, basically they are paid to humiliate themselves in front of an audience... >>
two of my friends went up on the stage and did some crazy stuff, and trust me, they were not paid. i guess it's something that needs to be see to be believed. all they remember is being in total relaxation, and vaguely remember some of the weird stuff they did.
OREOSpeedwagon
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<< well if it doesnt work then how do you explain people barking, jumping around and doing all other kinds of weird things at those hypnose shows... >>
LOL, it's called, pay me, and I'll do it
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<< Isn't there something where while being hypnotized you won't do anything that you wouldn't normally do in regular life? Therefore, the whole barking like a dog thing is crapola? >>
so you cant do any barking noises?? >>
Not that you can't. You won't because you'd be making a fool of yourself and you wouldn't want to do that. From what I heard you can't make the person do anything they don't want to do.
First off, hynotism is very real. It's not magic, it's not completely controlling somebody, it's putting somebody in a trance-like state then offering suggestion.
When you're in this trance-like state, all your faculties are working... hearing, seeing, feeling, speaking, etc, except one, which is your critical reasoning (which some people don't even use when they're fully conscious). So if the hypnotist suggests to you to perform something in this state, and as long as it's not against your internal moral beliefs, then you'll do it. If he says that your watch is really 50lbs, you're going to really think your watch is 50lbs and you're going to have a hard time carrying it.
Don't underestimate the power of suggestion. Even when fully conscious, we're quite subject to the power of suggestion. I remembered when i was younger, somebody told me a version of an accident that was false (i had a different memory of it)... at the time i knew he was wrong, but as the more often he told it, eventually i CAME to believe it was absolutely true. It was only years later that he admitted the lie and i remember the true events, but according to my memories all those years, it was his fabrication of it.
Anyways, almost everybody can be hypnotize... if they're willing. If you go on stage believing you won't, or don't want to, then there's nothing the hynotist can do to you to make you relax enough to go into a trance like state.
I suggest going to a live show and see if it's real. Sometimes, you will see the odd person that can't be hypnotize, mostly because they're so nervous or unwilling to get into a relax state. But most of these shows try to get a large number of the audience involved, so most likely you'll know somebody who's being pulled onto the stage... and i'll bet they weren't paid to pluck around like a chicken.
When you're in this trance-like state, all your faculties are working... hearing, seeing, feeling, speaking, etc, except one, which is your critical reasoning (which some people don't even use when they're fully conscious). So if the hypnotist suggests to you to perform something in this state, and as long as it's not against your internal moral beliefs, then you'll do it. If he says that your watch is really 50lbs, you're going to really think your watch is 50lbs and you're going to have a hard time carrying it.
Don't underestimate the power of suggestion. Even when fully conscious, we're quite subject to the power of suggestion. I remembered when i was younger, somebody told me a version of an accident that was false (i had a different memory of it)... at the time i knew he was wrong, but as the more often he told it, eventually i CAME to believe it was absolutely true. It was only years later that he admitted the lie and i remember the true events, but according to my memories all those years, it was his fabrication of it.
Anyways, almost everybody can be hypnotize... if they're willing. If you go on stage believing you won't, or don't want to, then there's nothing the hynotist can do to you to make you relax enough to go into a trance like state.
I suggest going to a live show and see if it's real. Sometimes, you will see the odd person that can't be hypnotize, mostly because they're so nervous or unwilling to get into a relax state. But most of these shows try to get a large number of the audience involved, so most likely you'll know somebody who's being pulled onto the stage... and i'll bet they weren't paid to pluck around like a chicken.
I have to second Moralpanic - hypnotism is very real! The power of suggestion is frightening...the reason testimony under hypnosis not admissible in court is because it has been proven that hypnotic suggestion can be used to convice a person that s/he remembers events which never actually took place, or that real events took place slightly differently than they really did. It's WAY to easy to get someone to "lie" using hypnosis...the person will believe they are telling the truth, so a lie detector is useless, too.
Sounds like this Tyler Durden is also comming out of the spell. Can you tell me something about who he is, Moralpanic?
brycearoni, I doubt you'll be back, but just wanted to tell you, incase, that nothing is more irritating than somebody who posts without reading anything that came before and makes the same now proved inane argument that has just been dispensed with. Next time maybe you can tell us that you can't be made to do anything that's against your morals. Please! It's not a biggie, but..... Just a suggestion.
brycearoni, I doubt you'll be back, but just wanted to tell you, incase, that nothing is more irritating than somebody who posts without reading anything that came before and makes the same now proved inane argument that has just been dispensed with. Next time maybe you can tell us that you can't be made to do anything that's against your morals. Please! It's not a biggie, but..... Just a suggestion.
Its real for sure. One time I was at a carnival thing and went to a hypnotist show. I ran into a friend who was there with some buds and one of them got picked to go on stage. I can guarantee he wasn't prechosen or it was an act.
I also have a friend whose uncle can do some but he won't do it on his family because he feels it is too dangerous hehe.
I also have a friend whose uncle can do some but he won't do it on his family because he feels it is too dangerous hehe.
Moralpanic is correct. I myself have been hypnotized. Go ahead laugh and call me a weak minded person. But it all depends if the person wants to be hypnotized. If you go up and say "alright go do it" and you just stand/sit there holding a laugh in and smirk then its not going to happen. But say you really focus and concentrate and follow through because you want to experience something out of the ordinary, it does and often will work.
My friend froze my eyelids shut. I'm dead serious... I tried opening them and I couldn't. People told me I was straining to get them open. It was really freaky I have to admit and a lot of my friends who were watching thought it was planned out. Believe what you want to but there are a lot of things in this world that are simply amazing.
My friend froze my eyelids shut. I'm dead serious... I tried opening them and I couldn't. People told me I was straining to get them open. It was really freaky I have to admit and a lot of my friends who were watching thought it was planned out. Believe what you want to but there are a lot of things in this world that are simply amazing.
It is real.
A few years ago my friends and I got real big into hypnotism and got papers on the internet and stuff on how to do it. We tried it on another one of our friends (a totally shy kid, very self aware, and this kid won't even change in a locker room). Well it worked, we asked him what girl he likes, he told us, and we told him the pillow was the girl, and he made out with the pillow. No joke.
A few years ago my friends and I got real big into hypnotism and got papers on the internet and stuff on how to do it. We tried it on another one of our friends (a totally shy kid, very self aware, and this kid won't even change in a locker room). Well it worked, we asked him what girl he likes, he told us, and we told him the pillow was the girl, and he made out with the pillow. No joke.
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