Poll: Do we need metal detectors in all schools including colleges and universities?

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: Gibsons
In terms of cost and lives saved, would it be more or less effective than a 45 mph national speed limit?

If you are going to considert the cost of a 45mph speed limit, you have to factor in the amnount of time lost traveling around at that speed, as opposed to higher speeds. Cost isn't only in lives lost.

In case it wasn't clear, I do not favor lowering the speed limit, just trying to make a point. :music: I can't drive 55. :music:

 

[2Dead]

It depends on the campus but it wouldn't work for any campus with multiple entry points/buildings. It would just be too much to enforce with too many cracks. In HS, they had metal detecors - at the main entrance and at a side entrance that all students had to use. Other doors where only openable from the inside and didn't have handles on the outside. This never stopped any students from coming and going as they pleased between classes as it was easy to jam the door and keep it open enough that it wasn't noticable but still easy to open. Now, I never went out and brought a weapon back in but its possible.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: novasatori

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what do you think, will this prevent further tragedies in the future?

Yea man

What we need is a centralized security point, a main gate if you will, with armed guards and road blocks. Near this will be public parking and past the gates/metal detectors/security will be a bus oval for students to bus into the campus.

Surrounding the entire campus we'll need 6 foot fences with razor wire and guard towers every so often along the perimeter with assault rifles.

<cocks gun>
"Hello, welcome to the tour of our university. Please place your bags and belongings on the conveyor belt and step over to this area so we may wand and frisk you, oh and you have been randomly selected for a full body cavity search. I hope you enjoy the tour and select our school for your higher education."

fixt.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

If I'm determined to kill people, a security checkpoint isn't even going to slow me down, let alone stop me.

- M4H

 

[engineereeyore]

I don't see how it would work with students moving from building to building. If instead they just put them at entrances, you'd have to gate the entire campus and patrol that gate. I don't think it'd work, and I don't see how in the world they would realistically implement it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

One crazy person out of a million students...and it's gonna make a mess...

 

[slpaulson]

There's no way it would work on a campus.

I can't even imagine how many students somebody could kill between classes at a large campus like mine. The sidewalks get so packed with students you can hardly move. A metal detector is not going to save ******.

Plus, what's there to stop a killer from shooting the people waiting at a check point?

 

[So]

Worst idea EVER. I'm a student, and I was particularly disturbed by this, but that would do NOTHING except inconvenience me, and not make anyone safer.

People really need to learn how to do risk analysis, but that would require going to school, which they are afraid to do. Life's a bitch, eh?

 

[axelfox]

What if they start shooting all the people in line?

 

[Vic]

The only people this would benefit is the corporation that makes the metal detectors. Yay fascism!

 

[Bacstar]

In this day and age, security should be a concern for everyone, at schools, malls, work, etc. Any security devices or procedures are only as good as the people who are implementing them. Instead of having metal detectors or extra security, why not start educating students. How can someone wearing an ammo vest walk across campus without anyone noticing?

When I visited Israel while I was in the navy, it is embedded into their everyday lives that they need to watch out for suspicious people, objects, behavior. I may not be enough to stop anyone hell bent on committing a massacre such as this but you never know.

 

[markgm]

Yes. Metal is evil. Ban metal.

 

[FreshPrince]

hey, atleast this gives the appearance of security right?

anyways, I just heard on the news that this school has 85+ armed security guards for a school of 28K students.

even though a staff of 85+ security guards seem a lot, that's about one security guard per 300 students. I would say this is still much better than say city police, which is what? 500-600 civilians per officer?

the point is unless you're sending your kids to get educated in the military, don't expect good security in any open setting. lower your expectations and just know there's really no security at all in schools.

 

[desk]

glad to see the results of this poll are so lopsided.

 

[Eeezee]

Your poll sucks

If shooting in schools was completely stopped, then there would just be more shootings somewhere else. How about at a cafe? Or a restaurant? Should metal detectors be required EVERYWHERE?!

Wasting money won't fix this sort of problem. This kid was just crazy, and there's nothing we can do if he wants to kill some people.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If I'm determined to kill people, a security checkpoint isn't even going to slow me down, let alone stop me.

- M4H

Yeah, I'd just see the metal detector as antagonism.


My ex-gf once told me that the guy that she was banging was afraid I was going to shoot him. I reassured her that if I was going to go through the trouble of killing someone, I wouldn't use a gun. I'd want it to be up-close and personal. I'd kill them with my bare hands.

I'm sure that made her feel a lot better. :evil:

 

[ultimatebob]

The sad thing is that all these people standing in line and waiting at security checkpoints are an easy target for terrorists on their own!

For example, how do you stop a suicide bomber from walking into a TSA screening line at a major airport during holiday travel season and blowing themselves up? With hundreds of people huddled together waiting in line like that, it's just a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[0roo0roo]

heh yup you don't even have to go to the classroom, take out the people in line save on bullets with them lined up like that.