**:::Poll::Do we need a bonding FAQ ?:::**
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What ever you want to call it, I mean combining multiple connections in to one. This gets asked her ~twice a week.
Go for it. It may even get posted on the main anandtech page. Unfortunately, the same people that read FAQs, are the ones that search the forum 
amdfanboy, I'm all over FAQs, happy to write text myself or review drafts if that helps.We need 'em.
Please use the term "load sharing" here. BONDING is an ISDN term, actually.
n0cmonkey, once there IS a FAQ, if folks ask questions answered there, a simple link answers the question, no need for everyone to cross the same ground over and over again.
Please use the term "load sharing" here. BONDING is an ISDN term, actually.
n0cmonkey, once there IS a FAQ, if folks ask questions answered there, a simple link answers the question, no need for everyone to cross the same ground over and over again.
I'm not saying they aren't necessary or even nice to have, just that he shouldn't be disappointed if they aren't used. Obviously I think they are important enough to keep a link to them in my sig
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The truth is even more discouraging.
Beside the General Link in n0cmonkey signature, others would not refer to the FAQ links.
99.9% of the referral to the FAQs that I wrote is done by me.
Most of the long terms member here know about these links but would not use them. I do not remember more than 10-20 times that it was use by any other member over a span of 2-3 years.
Why it is so?
I would not care to give you explanations in public. But it is along the same line as the explanation to why people follow other people posts when they really have nothing to add to the issue at hand.
The "beauty" of the Internet is the capacity to link (and it is no secret that I use it a lot).
If an answer to a question (like people often do) is to tell a person to search Google than you can reduce the Whole FAQ to one link: Google.com
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Beside the General Link in n0cmonkey signature, others would not refer to the FAQ links.
99.9% of the referral to the FAQs that I wrote is done by me.
Most of the long terms member here know about these links but would not use them. I do not remember more than 10-20 times that it was use by any other member over a span of 2-3 years.
Why it is so?
I would not care to give you explanations in public. But it is along the same line as the explanation to why people follow other people posts when they really have nothing to add to the issue at hand.
The "beauty" of the Internet is the capacity to link (and it is no secret that I use it a lot).
If an answer to a question (like people often do) is to tell a person to search Google than you can reduce the Whole FAQ to one link: Google.com
:sun:
Well it is a bit of a mouthful... perhaps they could shorten it like so:
"Read the FAQs before posting" (and make it one font size larger)
Because, it is highly unlikely anyone will ever come across an AT forum without knowing:
1. That they are at the AnandTech site
2. That FAQ = commonly asked questions
3. That the FAQs here deal with hardware and software questions
"Read the FAQs before posting" (and make it one font size larger)
Because, it is highly unlikely anyone will ever come across an AT forum without knowing:
1. That they are at the AnandTech site
2. That FAQ = commonly asked questions
3. That the FAQs here deal with hardware and software questions
It's worth a shot, but I don't think it will help. Many people run into difficulties and their first reaction is "SOMEONE HELP ME!" instead of "maybe I can find the answer..." So many people post the same questions over and over, and the same people answer them over and over. Then the questioning people wonder why the answer people are always grumpy.
You'll get those clueless people no matter what you do, the best way to react is just post:
"Please read _this FAQ_ (link) and tell us if you still have problems"
But I really do think the FAQ link should be made more obvious. Right now the font is smaller than the topic font... I would not have noticed it had I not seen this thread and looked specifically for it.
"Please read _this FAQ_ (link) and tell us if you still have problems"
But I really do think the FAQ link should be made more obvious. Right now the font is smaller than the topic font... I would not have noticed it had I not seen this thread and looked specifically for it.
Here you go, any one want to skim it for accuracy:
So, you now have that awesome broadband connection. Now you can listen to streaming music, browse the web, download files, and play games all at the same time. Yeah, it's fast but you want faster. You may have wondered what if you could get two broadband connections and combine them to get twice speed. This is called many things including connection bonding or multi-linking. Before you waste your time reading this, this will not increase your speed in games and will add latency.
Increasing Bandwidth
It was originally used for WAN links for corporations before high-speed connections existed. An example of this would be two 4Mb connections combined to make a single 8Mbs connection. You would be able to download at 8Mbs from any site that could keep up. Some dial up ISPs also support multi-linking. This also requires to modems and two phone lines for obvious reasons. So you may wonder why companies and dial up ISP can combine multiple connections together but you can't The reason is because it requires the ISP to reassemble these connections back in to one when it gets to their side. Almost all DSL and other broadband companies do not support this. This is most likely because of the expensive hardware it requires and the increased latency that would make it unusable for gaming.
Redundancy / Load balancing
You can however use multiple connections for load balancing and redundancy. This does not require the ISP's help. Say for instance that you have 100 computers. That is quite a lot to be on one broadband connection. If you could divide those up so they used two connections instead of one, you could help speed up the Internet for every one by lowering the load. Also, if you doing a lot of downloading from multiple sites, it could also help speed it up. You have to remember, if you combine two 3Mbs connections, no single download will be faster than 3Mbs. If you were to have three downloads going at once, one could go at 3Mbs and the two others would share the other 3Mb connection. Why is this good? In addition to reducing the load on a connection, it also provides some redundancy if one connection fails.
Here are some routers that support load balancing:
[*]http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=101
[*]http://www.xincom.com/products.html
So, you now have that awesome broadband connection. Now you can listen to streaming music, browse the web, download files, and play games all at the same time. Yeah, it's fast but you want faster. You may have wondered what if you could get two broadband connections and combine them to get twice speed. This is called many things including connection bonding or multi-linking. Before you waste your time reading this, this will not increase your speed in games and will add latency.
Increasing Bandwidth
It was originally used for WAN links for corporations before high-speed connections existed. An example of this would be two 4Mb connections combined to make a single 8Mbs connection. You would be able to download at 8Mbs from any site that could keep up. Some dial up ISPs also support multi-linking. This also requires to modems and two phone lines for obvious reasons. So you may wonder why companies and dial up ISP can combine multiple connections together but you can't The reason is because it requires the ISP to reassemble these connections back in to one when it gets to their side. Almost all DSL and other broadband companies do not support this. This is most likely because of the expensive hardware it requires and the increased latency that would make it unusable for gaming.
Redundancy / Load balancing
You can however use multiple connections for load balancing and redundancy. This does not require the ISP's help. Say for instance that you have 100 computers. That is quite a lot to be on one broadband connection. If you could divide those up so they used two connections instead of one, you could help speed up the Internet for every one by lowering the load. Also, if you doing a lot of downloading from multiple sites, it could also help speed it up. You have to remember, if you combine two 3Mbs connections, no single download will be faster than 3Mbs. If you were to have three downloads going at once, one could go at 3Mbs and the two others would share the other 3Mb connection. Why is this good? In addition to reducing the load on a connection, it also provides some redundancy if one connection fails.
Here are some routers that support load balancing:
[*]http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=101
[*]http://www.xincom.com/products.html
amdfanboy, you might add that multi-link is never "free" - there is a latency cost inherent in the technology (you must buffer at both ends to put things back together in the right order), and the increased latency would adversely affect home gamers. The bufferring is also one of the reasons why SOHO ISPs don't support this; it would require more expensive equipment with a lot more packet memory.
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