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Poll: Do the survivors and the families of the Tulsa massacre deserve reparations?

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Should the survivors and their families be paid reparations from the state of Oklahoma?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 68.8%
  • No

    Votes: 15 31.3%

  • Total voters
    48

Matt390

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There was never one single honest incident of a black man "looking at, or touching, or raping a white woman" in any of those incidents. Not one. It was just communities making a justification for torture and public murder. That's a fucking fact.

Believe women.

But seriously, when accusations match up with preconceived beliefs, people are much more likely to believe them. Combine this with mob "justice" and terrible things happen.
 

mect

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Jan 5, 2004
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No man is an island.
Of course, but there are events like this that occur with support of government agencies (or at least without their opposition) that have an impact on significant populations beyond what is experienced by the general population.
 

HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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People against reparations for the Tulsa victims and their families have boxed themselves into a corner. All their stereotypes about black people they spout regularly, the Greenwood people were the polar opposite. Hard working, prosperous, upstanding citizens. The white man with help from the state, take all their shit, burn it to the ground and kill them. In the next breath they don't want anyone held accountable.
 
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Matt390

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People against reparations for the Tulsa victims and their families have boxed themselves into a corner. All their stereotypes about black people they spout regularly, the Greenwood people were the polar opposite. Hard working, prosperous, upstanding citizens. The white man with help from the state, take all their shit, burn it to the ground and kill them. In the next breath they don't want anyone held accountable.
They can seek compensation from the people that burned down the buildings and took their shit.
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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I would not say no, and I'm not saying this based on the OP's arguments, which I have not read, nor anyone else's here in this thread, but just based on my understanding of what happened June 1, 1921 in Tulsa. The only argument that has any substance I can imagine against reparations for the people who suffered that humongous catastrophe would be the 100 intervening years. However, the damage done these people was more than the death and destruction of their community and 300 estimated of its inhabitants. The coverup that followed was heinous and insidious. Reparations would do something significant to negate the coverup.
 
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VW MAN

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They can seek compensation from the people that burned down the buildings and took their shit.
So after all your shit filled commentary its nice to know that you agree that government is at least partially responsible for what occured in Tulsa and that government should at least be on the hook for compensating people who as you say "burned down the buildings and took their shit". Maybe next you'll figure out that the Tulsa Massacre was much much worse then burning a few buildings and having some stuff taken from some people. It would be ideal if you actually educated yourself on the matter before flapping your gums and vomiting out bullshit....but doubtful you will even try...your kind rarely if ever does, instead they often choose to take the easy way out and do nothing more then parrot propagandized talking points like good dogs.
 

HomerJS

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So after all your shit filled commentary its nice to know that you agree that government is at least partially responsible for what occured in Tulsa and that government should at least be on the hook for compensating people who as you say "burned down the buildings and took their shit". Maybe next you'll figure out that the Tulsa Massacre was much much worse then burning a few buildings and having some stuff taken from some people. It would be ideal if you actually educated yourself on the matter before flapping your gums and vomiting out bullshit....but doubtful you will even try...your kind rarely if ever does, instead they often choose to take the easy way out and do nothing more then parrot propagandized talking points like good dogs.
The government is fully responsible because they worked together with the Klan and other ill meaning whites. The government also engaged in the coverup of the massacre. The city of Tulsa owes big time
 

Greenman

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Oct 15, 1999
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People against reparations for the Tulsa victims and their families have boxed themselves into a corner. All their stereotypes about black people they spout regularly, the Greenwood people were the polar opposite. Hard working, prosperous, upstanding citizens. The white man with help from the state, take all their shit, burn it to the ground and kill them. In the next breath they don't want anyone held accountable.
This is disingenuous. If any of the perps were alive I'd be all for a trial followed by a trip to the gas chamber.
The real issue for me is how far back do we go looking for crimes, and who gets punished for them. There is no end to the list of people who have been wronged throughout history, it's impossible to make everyone whole again.
 
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Commodus

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This is disingenuous. If any of the perps were alive I'd be all for a trial followed by a trip to the gas chamber.
The real issue for me is how far back do we go looking for crimes, and who gets punished for them. There is no end to the list of people who have been wronged throughout history, it's impossible to make everyone whole again.
The Tulsa massacre is certainly recent enough, I'd say. There are still living survivors; the damages are both profound and still echoing through society; it was only relatively recently that there was a significant, formal acknowledgment of what happened. Like I mentioned earlier... even if you don't think there should be reparations for slavery, there's a strong case for reparations here.

(I'm reviving the thread because someone linked a TED talk recapping the massacre; I'll link that below for convenience's sake.)

 

HomerJS

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This is disingenuous. If any of the perps were alive I'd be all for a trial followed by a trip to the gas chamber.
The real issue for me is how far back do we go looking for crimes, and who gets punished for them. There is no end to the list of people who have been wronged throughout history, it's impossible to make everyone whole again.
How many times do I have to say it? The City of Tulsa is one of the perps. They aided in the killings, lootings and burnings and aerial bombings.

Why can't you understand that??

BTW - If we entertain your logic what is the arbitrary cutoff elapsed time when we don't hold anyone responsible? I'll pick one, let's say 3 years.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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This is disingenuous. If any of the perps were alive I'd be all for a trial followed by a trip to the gas chamber.
The real issue for me is how far back do we go looking for crimes, and who gets punished for them. There is no end to the list of people who have been wronged throughout history, it's impossible to make everyone whole again.
I suggest you watch the ted talk @Commodus posted. Come back to us and tell us again why the survivors and their families don't deserve shit
 

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