POLL: Bush vs. Kerry in 04

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carmat4

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If we could get someone that would give us immigration reform thats badly needed, I would vote for them in a second. Kerry is a schmuck, I will have to vote bush or maybe I wont vote at all.
Bush is a schmuck too, since he wanted amnesty for those illegals.

These stupid politicians dont give a crap about the future of this country.
 

Red Dawn

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Well the Dub has shown himself untrustworthy and Kerry is a Mass Liberal. Not much of a choice one way or another.
 

PingSpike

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I'm just voting for not Bush. I can't stand his foriegn policy that is erroding our standing in the rest of the world at precisely the time we need to increase it. Plus I don't trust what he is saying is true.

I'll save my idealogies for the next election.
 

dejacky

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I didn't read any of the posts because they're too long and I'm tired. But,

WHY THE HELL ARE THERE 186 VOTES FOR BUSH?
WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR THIS IMBESOL?
WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT? (please use conducive things he's accomplished)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dejacky
I didn't read any of the posts because they're too long and I'm tired. But,

WHY THE HELL ARE THERE 186 VOTES FOR BUSH?

WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR THIS IMBESOL?

PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU THINK HE WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT (please use conducive things he's accomplished)



-dejacky

Along the same lines -why are there 242 votes for kerry? Why are people voting for this guy?(because he is "anyone but Bush"?)
Please tell me why you think kerry would be a good president and why you support him.

CkG
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dejacky
I didn't read any of the posts because they're too long and I'm tired. But,

WHY THE HELL ARE THERE 186 VOTES FOR BUSH?

WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR THIS IMBESOL?

PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU THINK HE WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT (please use conducive things he's accomplished)



-dejacky

Along the same lines -why are there 242 votes for kerry? Why are people voting for this guy?(because he is "anyone but Bush"?)
Please tell me why you think kerry would be a good president and why you support him.

CkG
I don't think Kerry would be a good President but I doubt he could be any worse than the Dub. That's why I voted for Results.
 

dejacky

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As my good friend has just mentioned and I agree with him...I ENCOURAGE you all NOT TO VOTE BUSH becuz;

GENERALLY

first off, Bush hasn't done anything for jobs, secondly this war on terror is the biggest blunder since vietnam since what he needed to do is FOCUS ON ONE NATION AT A TIME AKA AFGHANISTAN...take to task the pakistani government for allowing AQ khan to commit such a threat to world national security, focusing doubly efforts made on killing and crushing al qaeda and ansar al islam and Jamat Islamiya (who will be the most potentially dangerous group in years to come as they remain relatively unchecked in south east asia and can pull a Bali bombinga ny time they wish), Take to Task saudi arabia and its clear involvement with terrorists. last but not least... Bush is oil hoarding... much of this entire bvll$h!t that's happening can be wiped out and die out in the next 50 years. simply be focusing on alternative energy resources. getting america to be more independent from the world so it doesn't have to act as world policemen or do any other $h!t with the middle east... let the middle east burn if that's what the arabs want, turkey is safe in euro-hands... but focusing on developing clear renewable energy sources would really clear up this entire bvll$h!t... cuz then there'd be so much less need for oil.

SPECIFICALLY

The Bush Administration has made the single biggest foreign policy blunder since Vietnam and this as a result needs to be taken to task and thrown out. No other president would focus on Iraq and leave open room to actually attack true terrorists and rebuild nations ONE at a time like Afghanistan. Also, Bush has made even stronger two allies that are going to bite them in the @$$ later on: SAUDI and PAKISTAN. Pakistan's top nuclear scienties and considered nation hero (Dr. Aq Khan) sold nuclear technology such as centrifuges and enriched uranium AND nuclear knowledge and secrets to N. Korea, Libya, and Iran. He went on public television with President Musharraf and simply apologized for what he did and he was Pardoned...that's right...he was just pardoned. Pardoned for fv(k!ng commiting an act so henious....that is so dangerous to american national security...this sort of nuclear proliferation is a greater threat to american national security than Iraq was in the past 8 years. Now A Q Khan is off the hook and is gone back to nuclear research and the USA has completely donwplayed this... particularly this administration and even went to promote Pakistan to a high level special ally of NATO even though it's own key scientific hero has given information & technology on producting the most dangerous weapon of mass destruction to some of what this administration deems as its "worst enemies."
BLATANT LIE and CONTRADITION on this administration's part in this alleged "War on Terror." A question must be asked...say if a top level Nuclear Scientiest of the USA sold Nuclear technology, ENRICHED URANIUM and NUCLEAR SECRETS and know-how to Libya, N Korea, and Iran and then all he did to avoid repurcussion is apologize to Bush on national television and now he's back to work. WOULD YOU FEEL SAFE? Would you feel trust in this administration of ours who simply pardoned this hypothetical fv(ker who commited such a dangerous terrorist act against national security?
Secondly, Bush has COMPLETLY LIED TO THE PUBLIC about IRAQ BEING AN IMMEDIATE THREAT. Saddam sure is bad and needed to be removed, BUT if your going to invade, @ least have 1 fv(king Post War Back Up Plan. Bush, our commander in chief of the most powerful armed forces, has made assumptions so detrimental that it's cost the lives of 600 Americans in Iraq. That's approaching death levels of September 11th. Bush in earlier Time Magazine reports believed that 7-8 billion dollars a MONTH would come from oil sales as soon as thier forces rolled into iraq. and now he's pulled this entire 87 billion dollar bvll$h!t on our heads... OUR TAX MONEY... OUR HARD EARNED dolllars. gone to HAlliburton who are not doing anything to rebuild Iraq...to bechtel who've had the contract sitting for a year but haven't done anything to improve powerlines, water sewage facilities, basic infrastructure! The first most critical act in a post war plan of creating a vassal state/experiment for middle eastern democracy (which is this...this is not a part of the war on terror at all and those who believe so are more myopic than old geezer grannies) IS THE SECURING OF BORDERS to prevent foreign terrorists from coming in and destroying and creating a mess which is exactly what is happening now. It's been over a year yet there is still no definite plan for border security. The Iraqi armed forces were disbanded... why? why the fv(k were these soldiers de-equipped and not used IMMEDIATELY in the securing of borders? well u can always use a lil at a time.


We're both not fans of Kerry either, but Kerry at least has "Clintonian Advisors" that can mould his policies and help him form a categorical plan to deal with the crap our country is going thru.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dejacky
As my good friend has just mentioned and I agree with him...
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We're both not fans of Kerry either, but Kerry at least has "Clintonian Advisors" that can mould his policies and help him form a categorical plan to deal with the crap our country is going thru.

So you are dejacky2 and he's dejacky1? oh this'll be fun.
rolleye.gif


Why doesn't dejacky2 get his own account?

CkG
 

maluckey

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It's sad that on this blatantly Liberal Forum that Kerry doesn't have a more commanding lead versus the Anti-Christ Bush. That being said, Kerry is better than Dean, (does anyone remember Dean?).
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: maluckey
It's sad that on this blatantly Liberal Forum that Kerry doesn't have a more commanding lead versus the Anti-Christ Bush. That being said, Kerry is better than Dean, (does anyone remember Dean?).


Dean? He died in that car crash after only a couple of movies, right?
 

dejacky

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The thing about Kerry is he is kinda "flip-flop" in terms of not having a stern single opinion on issues. But again, I'd take him over Bush any day.
 

Tripleshot

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Kerry winning by an 11 point spread today in this long running poll? I like it. It is what I predict the spread will be Nov 2nd.;)
 

Soulkeeper

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i think we got a lot of time to put pressure on both candidates
see which one cracks
hehe

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: snidy1
Kerry's worse than Clinton, I didn't think it was possible.
Why that may be true but that doesn't mean that Bush is better. I can only imagine the mess this country will be in after another 4 more years due to Bushes miscalculations regarding Foriegn Affairs.

 

Radiation

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A vote for Kerry is a vote for war in Iraq:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37578

He supported it in 1997 and voted for it this time around.

So, don't bring up the war in Iraq when trying to compare the two, since they were BOTH in support of it. Bush can say that his intel was inaccurate, and Kerry can say he was deceived, either way, they both were supporters.

If your issue is with the war, then you need to vote for a third part candidate.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Kerry winning by an 11 point spread today in this long running poll? I like it. It is what I predict the spread will be Nov 2nd.;)

I dunno, AT is like 3:2 in favor of dems. I think the general population is closer to 50/50. Don't forget Nader, his whackos will take 5% of kerrys votes.

 

gflores

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Looks to be another close election. Hope there isn't a debacle in the voting booths again. I'm definitely going to vote (turned 18 last year), still not sure who...
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: dejacky
The thing about Kerry is he is kinda "flip-flop" in terms of not having a stern single opinion on issues. But again, I'd take him over Bush any day.

Uh, don't buy into the lies. They twist Kerry's record shamelessly (what, Republicans?). Bush is the flip flopper in chief, just go here or here.

As for being a "Massachusetts Liberal," let's break it down:
Massachusetts=first state/colony to abolish slavery
Liberal= oed a. Free from narrow prejudice; open-minded, candid.
b. Free from bigotry or unreasonable prejudice in favour of traditional opinions or established institutions; open to the reception of new ideas or proposals of reform.

Sounds like a nice person, unlike some @$$hole from texas who likes to make fun of women on death row.
 

dejacky

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preslove I completely agree with you. Remember Bush saying gay marriage should be decision of THE STATES when he was running for President? But Now, he's trying to make it a FEDERAL intervention... BUSH IS A LIAR.