POLL: Are you racist?

[PaperclipGod]

Topic.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

No. I hate all people equally.

 

[chrisms]

If Al Sharpton was standing over my shoulder when I talked to my friends, then yes, he would probably call me a racist.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
No. I hate all people equally.

That is bullsh!t, but it works on a lot of people so :thumbsup:

 

[imported_Mike]

I have racial prejudices, so if that makes me a racist, yes.

 

[UncleWai]

Black power!

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

Racist!

 

[imported_Mike]

Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

Racist!

I have a hard time reading your reply let me take off my white hood first.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

Racist!

I have a hard time reading your reply let me take off my white hood first.

Those damn things always get in the way...they make the eye cutouts way to small! :|

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

Racist!

I have a hard time reading your reply let me take off my white hood first.

Those damn things always get in the way...they make the eye cutouts way to small! :|

You can bet the Imperial Wizard will be hearing about this at the next meeting!

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Black power!

Calm down Uncle Wai, you little teapot you. Call me crazy but I get the impression you're Asian.

Racist!

I have a hard time reading your reply let me take off my white hood first.

Those damn things always get in the way...they make the eye cutouts way to small! :|

You can bet the Imperial Wizard will be hearing about this at the next meeting!

Um....wait

O, you were talking about ?...oh snap, I've implicated myself. I must run far far away.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

 

[chrisms]

There is a difference between being a full blown racist and having an opinion on issues that relate to race. For example, I can bitch all day long about affirmative action and some of the things I say would probably sound racist. But I also bring up the point that minorities that actually earned the privelage of attending a certain college are hurt by affirmative action as well, because as far as I'm concerned if you're a minority and in university I'm going to assume you got in because of the color of your skin. This is just from personal experience.

That may sound racist but it has a basis in fact and personal experience. Every minority I've known in university had piss poor grades in high school.

So by not letting the term "racism" block my opinions, I'm sure tons of people out there would call me a racist.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

So, we are going to distance stereotyping from racism? If you're stereotyping on race alone, would that not be racism?

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

So, we are going to distance stereotyping from racism? If you're stereotyping on race alone, would that not be racism?

No. Racism inherantly carries a negative connotation. A stereotype could be a good thing: Jewish people are smart. Or black people are good athletes.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

So, we are going to distance stereotyping from racism? If you're stereotyping on race alone, would that not be racism?

No. Racism inherantly carries a negative connotation. A stereotype could be a good thing: Jewish people are smart. Or black people are good athletes.

What if you went the other way with those stereotypes? Would that be raccism? Not that I believe this, but what if you said for example; Jewish people are cheap, black people steal. Those are negative stereotypes, would they not also be racist?

 

[PaperclipGod]

Originally posted by: chrisms
There is a difference between being a full blown racist and having an opinion on issues that relate to race. For example, I can bitch all day long about affirmative action and some of the things I say would probably sound racist. But I also bring up the point that minorities that actually earned the privelage of attending a certain college are hurt by affirmative action as well, because as far as I'm concerned if you're a minority and in university I'm going to assume you got in because of the color of your skin. This is just from personal experience.

That may sound racist but it has a basis in fact and personal experience. Every minority I've known in university had piss poor grades in high school.

So by not letting the term "racism" block my opinions, I'm sure tons of people out there would call me a racist.

Im talking about racism as its defined... i.e. discriminating against people based on stereotypes/prejudices about their race.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

I can see that, but where do you draw the line on stereotyping and racism?

Take the asian women are bad drivers for example. For the to be bad drivers they are what? Inattentive ? Not trained properly? Stupid? I think its a fairly thin line.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: Mike
Where is the "Sure" option? Like I said, I have racial predudices, but I don't actively seek out KKK meetings nor yell out racial slurs from my window. Are there several levels of racisim?

I believe there might be. Or maybe its just us trying to justify out racism to ourselves.

I can see the semi logic to that, but there is a large difference between going to meetings with people who actively wish a certain race was never born and me thinking all asian women are bad drivers. Right? Or is that my own semi logic trying to justify my thinking? Not justify as in the right way of thinking, or that I am right, just justify myself as not being a full blown racist?

I think theres a difference between stereotyping and racism. Saying that asian women make bad drivers doesnt mean you hate asian people. I have just as many stereotypes for all races, white people included.

So, we are going to distance stereotyping from racism? If you're stereotyping on race alone, would that not be racism?

No. Racism inherantly carries a negative connotation. A stereotype could be a good thing: Jewish people are smart. Or black people are good athletes.

What if you went the other way with those stereotypes? Would that be raccism? Not that I believe this, but what if you said for example; Jewish people are cheap, black people steal. Those are negative stereotypes, would they not also be racist?

In my opinion, no. I think there are negative stereotypes for all races that dont equate to racism. However, if the person using them truly had a dislike for that race, then probably yes, but for other reasons than using that stereotype.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

Originally posted by: chrisms
There is a difference between being a full blown racist and having an opinion on issues that relate to race. For example, I can bitch all day long about affirmative action and some of the things I say would probably sound racist. But I also bring up the point that minorities that actually earned the privelage of attending a certain college are hurt by affirmative action as well, because as far as I'm concerned if you're a minority and in university I'm going to assume you got in because of the color of your skin. This is just from personal experience.

That may sound racist but it has a basis in fact and personal experience. Every minority I've known in university had piss poor grades in high school.

So by not letting the term "racism" block my opinions, I'm sure tons of people out there would call me a racist.

Im talking about racism as its defined... i.e. discriminating against people based on stereotypes/prejudices about their race.

The problem is, noone actually uses the real definition of racism. Any time someone throws that word out there, it implies a hatred for another person based on their race, which is much more extreme than the real definition of the word.

 

[Siddhartha]

There is some debate of what is a racist. Lets see what a dictionary and Wikipedia says about this.

rac?ism \"ra-'si-zem also -'shi-\ noun (1936)
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
rac?ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective

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Wikipedia's page on racism:

Racism is commonly defined as a belief or doctrine where inherent biological differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, with a corollary that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.[1]

The term racism is sometimes used to refer to preference for one's own ethnic group (ethnocentrism),[2] fear of foreigners (xenophobia), views or preferences against interbreeding of the races (miscegenation),[3], and/or a generalization of a specific group of people (stereotype); regardless of any explicit belief in superiority or inferiority embedded within such views or preferences. Racism has been used in attempts to justify social discrimination, racial segregation and violence, including genocide. Politicians are known to practice Race baiting in an effort to win constituents.

The term racist, when used to describe someone who supports racism, has been a pejorative term since at least the 1940s, and the identification of a group or person as racist is nearly always controversial.