POLL: Are you a pipe mover?

Cogman

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I live on a farm and have to move pipe to irrigate the feilds, Just wondering how many people out there know what moving pipe is.


For those that don't know, Plants need to be watered (duh!), But getting the water there can be tricky. One early and still used method is ditch irrigation, where an elaborate system of ditches goes through the field to water all the plants. This is a PITA to do though, because if the ditch ever breaks or the water floods, parts of the field will not get watered.

Then there is pipe moving. This involves pumping the water from a well or a ditch threw a network of pipes. Each pipe (ours are 3inch round and 40foot long (the metal is about 1 cm thick)) has a sprinkler head on top and waters the plants. Those pipe lines are connected to valves which control the water flow. At the last pipe, or the end pipe, there is a plug, which allows the entire line to pressure up. But the lines do not water the whole field, and have to be moved to reach the entire field, here you have the hook and latch pipes, and the macdowl pipes. The hook and latch are just as their names sound, they have a hook, and a latch, that keeps the pipes from pulling apart from the water pressure. The macdowl, much easier to move IMO, have ring of iron at one end of each pipe and a metal spring (help me out, I think it is copper) at the other ends. Anyways, the spring contracts from the cold water while the iron stays about the same size, that holds these pipes together.

Well, to move each line you have to disconnect one pipe, move it to the next position, and latch it in. Lines can be anywhere from 20 pipe long to 200 pipe long all depending on the farm. Empty the individual pipe weigh about 20 pounds. but when they have water in them (not fun at all ) they weigh around 300 pounds, usually we pick them up to drain them faster. Each move is about 40 ft apart on our farm.

So now you know about pipe moving, so are you a hydrotubular technitian?
 

Cogman

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:D I just thought I would try and share the joys of it with you guys. :) btw we usually move pipe in the morning, here in Idaho that is not always fun as some times we get mornings as cold as 30F (yes even in the summer)
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Cogman
:D I just thought I would try and share the joys of it with you guys. :) btw we usually move pipe in the morning, here in Idaho that is not always fun as some times we get mornings as cold as 30F (yes even in the summer)

Well now I know what I will NOT be doing for a living ever. :)
 

Ogg

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Originally posted by: Cogman
:D I just thought I would try and share the joys of it with you guys. :) btw we usually move pipe in the morning, here in Idaho that is not always fun as some times we get mornings as cold as 30F (yes even in the summer)

:thumbsup::cool:

Hey I moved pipe as a summer job in High School.......Loved the texas heat.
things I dont miss about the job=rattlesnakes in the pipes
things I miss=all the beer my boss would buy that we'd drank in the afternoon after all the work was done

Ah the memories :beer:
 

SagaLore

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Why bother laying pipe, when you can just run a huge hose to one of those self propelling sprinkler systems that walk a path?
 

OrganizedChaos

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pardon my ignorace for i am not a hick, why can't you install enough pipes to water the whole field at once?
 

Shockwave

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I guess I come from the hi tech farms. We put our irrigation pipes on stands and put wheels on the bottom of them. They move on their own..... :p

Those pipes are aluminum if I remember correctly no?
 

Cogman

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Rattle snakes arnt so bad here, mostly we get mice in the pipes. :) Great fun when you pull out the end plug and find 10 dead mice all crammed into something about the size of a measuring cup, then having to dump them out.

The resion I post this, is because this year our wheat is doing VERY well, so well that it is a PITA to move in. The Average stock of wheat come up to the bottem of my rib cage. And I am 6'2, and my pants lenght are 36, so I have a small upper body, (about 2 ft long) and very long legs.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Cogman
Rattle snakes arnt so bad here, mostly we get mice in the pipes. :) Great fun when you pull out the end plug and find 10 dead mice all crammed into something about the size of a measuring cup, then having to dump them out.

The resion I post this, is because this year our wheat is doing VERY well, so well that it is a PITA to move in. The Average stock of wheat come up to the bottem of my rib cage. And I am 6'2, and my pants lenght are 36, so I have a small upper body, (about 2 ft long) and very long legs.

Bushels / acre expectation?
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Cogman
Rattle snakes arnt so bad here, mostly we get mice in the pipes. :) Great fun when you pull out the end plug and find 10 dead mice all crammed into something about the size of a measuring cup, then having to dump them out.

The resion I post this, is because this year our wheat is doing VERY well, so well that it is a PITA to move in. The Average stock of wheat come up to the bottem of my rib cage. And I am 6'2, and my pants lenght are 36, so I have a small upper body, (about 2 ft long) and very long legs.

Yea I figured crops were going to do well this year, it seems that the weather has been very generous. At least where I live, if it rains it typically storms real hard at night, then during the day it's nice and hot again - but only 75-85 hot, not scorching. Unlike last year where the entire summer was just cold and raining, my garden didn't grow at all.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
pardon my ignorace for i am not a hick, why can't you install enough pipes to water the whole field at once?

You could, but it would be very expencive, and you would need a very powerful pump. Plus once you get done watering through the year you have to move ALL the pipe off the field so that you can run a tractor through and cut the wheat, barly, oats, or whatever your growing.

I guess I come from the hi tech farms. We put our irrigation pipes on stands and put wheels on the bottom of them. They move on their own.....

Those pipes are aluminum if I remember correctly no?

No, I believe they are steal (I dont think aluminum could withstand the pressure, to weak) Also I know about pivots, but thats not moving pipe now is it? I mean most will run on their own anyways (we do have a pivot on our farm) There are also wheel lines that have a moter in the middle to move them (wow thats a tounge twister), those are not so bad, but do have problems, that is why they are listed :).
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: SagaLore


Yea I figured crops were going to do well this year, it seems that the weather has been very generous. At least where I live, if it rains it typically storms real hard at night, then during the day it's nice and hot again - but only 75-85 hot, not scorching. Unlike last year where the entire summer was just cold and raining, my garden didn't grow at all.

Yep good here too for the most part, although we are still suffering a bit from the drought (though we have gotten a lot of rain for this year we are still in a drought, a couple more years like this should kick us out of the drought).
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
pardon my ignorace for i am not a hick, why can't you install enough pipes to water the whole field at once?

You could, but it would be very expencive, and you would need a very powerful pump. Plus once you get done watering through the year you have to move ALL the pipe off the field so that you can run a tractor through and cut the wheat, barly, oats, or whatever your growing.

I guess I come from the hi tech farms. We put our irrigation pipes on stands and put wheels on the bottom of them. They move on their own.....

Those pipes are aluminum if I remember correctly no?

No, I believe they are steal (I dont think aluminum could withstand the pressure, to weak) Also I know about pivots, but thats not moving pipe now is it? I mean most will run on their own anyways (we do have a pivot on our farm) There are also wheel lines that have a moter in the middle to move them (wow thats a tounge twister), those are not so bad, but do have problems, that is why they are listed :).


Ok, steel. Wasnt sure, my family never ran irrigation. Dryland only. But alot of our friends ran pivots. We'd go play in them when twe were younger. Hell with the lawn sprinkler, pivot > lawn sprinkler!
 

Bryophyte

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I moved plenty of irrigation pipe working on university farm test plots. Hook and loop. I remember they were light but ackward, and got hot in the sun. And I seem to remember they leaked like a bitch until they built up pressure, then they worked great.

Moving pipe is better work than cleaning grass seed.
 

Tom

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I always wondered about those wheel types and if it was a concern about the part of the field that they don't reach..I guess it's a trade off between maximizing field use and convenience ?

edit, btw, my favorite irrigation movie.. MILAGRO BEANFIELD WAR.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: Tom
I always wondered about those wheel types and if it was a concern about the part of the field that they don't reach..I guess it's a trade off between maximizing field use and convenience ?

edit, btw, my favorite irrigation movie.. MILAGRO BEANFIELD WAR.

Yah, That is basicly the trade off is maximizing field use. (btw they are call pivots, because they pivot around a central point :)). The other lines, Wheel lines, have a motor on them, and are easier to move then the handlines are, there are several problems with them, but they are easier to move then a hand line is, and hence prefered over hand lines.