Poll: are you a member of the ACLU?

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are you a member of the ACLU?

  • yes

  • no

  • not a member but support them.

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OutHouse

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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just curious who in here are card carrying members of the ACLU or thought about becoming one.
 
GroundedSailor

GroundedSailor

Platinum Member
Feb 18, 2001
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Where's the option for," I don't agree with all they do but appreciate their focus on upholding civil liberies" ?


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Scotteq

Scotteq

Diamond Member
Apr 10, 2008
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Not a Member.

I support them on some issues.

At other times, I think they may benefit from a different/better class of pharmaceuticals.
 
PJABBER

PJABBER

Diamond Member
Feb 8, 2001
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Many years ago I used to be a card carrying member of the ACLU, but no longer. I figured out that they were changing their focus to only support the rights of those they agreed with, mainly leftists and liberals, or maybe they were always like that but I did not realize it. Now it seems that they are just a bunch of lefty lawyers who won't take on any cases to protect the rights of those who aren't also of the left.

Same with Amnesty International. I supported their cause, now I tend to doubt their impartiality as well.
 
Amused

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Their absurd stance on the Second Amendment spoils it for me.

Though I have supported much of what they've done, their unwillingness to uphold the 2nd, and call it a "collective right of the government, not people" is highly damaging to our rights.
 
CallMeJoe

CallMeJoe

Diamond Member
Jul 30, 2004
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Amused said:
Their absurd stance on the Second Amendment spoils it for me.
Though I have supported much of what they've done, their unwillingness to uphold the 2nd, and call it a "collective right of the government, not people" is highly damaging to our rights.
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That's my problem, as well. I admire the ACLU's actions in support of free speech and against government endorsement of religion, but they should defend all civil liberties not just a select few.
 
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piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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What is it that the ACLU does that you think is good?

All I see them doing is trying to rescue criminals.
 
Scotteq

Scotteq

Diamond Member
Apr 10, 2008
5,276
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They fought (and are still fighting) the Patriot Act. I support their efforts on this one.
 
thraashman

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
11,112
1,587
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Amused said:
Their absurd stance on the Second Amendment spoils it for me.

Though I have supported much of what they've done, their unwillingness to uphold the 2nd, and call it a "collective right of the government, not people" is highly damaging to our rights.
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There's really no need for the ACLU to try to defend the 2nd Amendment as that's pretty much all that the NRA dedicates itself to. The ACLU is busy doing their best work with the other 9. Which I think is great since most of your most adamant supporters of the 2nd Amendment are the same people who seem to truly hate the first.
 
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Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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PJABBER said:
Many years ago I used to be a card carrying member of the ACLU, but no longer. I figured out that they were changing their focus to only support the rights of those they agreed with, mainly leftists and liberals, or maybe they were always like that but I did not realize it. Now it seems that they are just a bunch of lefty lawyers who won't take on any cases to protect the rights of those who aren't also of the left.

Same with Amnesty International. I supported their cause, now I tend to doubt their impartiality as well.
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LOL, it's you that's warped. It speaks well of them you are not supporting them.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108140,00.html
 
uberman

uberman

Golden Member
Sep 15, 2006
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I support the ACLU. They've given me some decent referrals over the years.

They also intervened when the school wanted me to search all my students daily for markers due to tagging incidents. That's not OK.

Thanks ACLU.
 
shira

shira

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2005
9,500
6
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CallMeJoe said:
That's my problem, as well. I admire the ACLU's actions in support of free speech and against government endorsement of religion, but they should defend all civil liberties not just a select few.
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The fact that YOU believe the 2nd amendment defines a personal right to carry firearms doesn't meant that that's what the 2nd amendment means. The ACLU has taken no position on the 2nd amendment in the courts, which pretty much means they think it's an open question.

I like it how right wing a-holes think that their reading of the Constitution is the only correct one, and anyone who disagrees is unprincipled.
 
shira

shira

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2005
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PJABBER said:
Yeah, a single privacy issue that involved Limbaugh. Not enough to make your case.

Take a comprehensive look at the entirety of their case load for the past thirty years, including amicus curiae briefs, and then get back to me.
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Yeah, you've read all their briefs from the past 30 years. Is that what you're claiming, you lying fvck?

Go back to bed, troll. You know nothing about the ACLU except for right-wing talking points, and you wouldn't know a principled stance even if it hit you in your pea-brain.
 
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