Poll: Anyone engage killing innocent animals? *oops* i mean hunting

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Simple question, a yes or no answer.

If you didn't guess by the topic, I don't believe in hunting and think the bastards who do it should be shot dead like the animals they kill. (This is strictly about hunting, I know some of you would like to bring up the point of eating meat but this more or less relates to the "sport" or "hobby" of hunting)

[edit]: changed topic again because someone thinks I'm afraid of their opinion.
 

FettsBabe

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No, we mean "killing of innocent animals." To do this as a sport is WRONG! :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|
 

NFS4

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No :|

I say we throw hunters out in the woods buck naked and arm chimpanzees with rifles, guns, (women's perfume, and Playboys--all to lure them;)) and hunt them down ;)
 

Genius

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I don't hunt for that exact reason. My family hunts. I'm kinda torn in my opinion of fishing. I caught a huge Rock Bass (Master Angler) a couple of weeks ago and kept it for some damn reason. A truly beatiful fish for it's species, and I wish I'd have released it. 6 hours later when I had to clean it the thing was still alive. I hated myself that night.
 

I accidentaly shot a bird with my little BB gun in middle school. I was only trying to scare it. It wasn't a pretty scene. That's the extent of my hunting. I love the sport of rifle-shooting, though.

I think most hunters don't hunt purely for sport. Even the guys with a deer rack over their fireplace probably used all the venison from that deer as well.

 

FettsBabe

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Most hunters do eat the meat when they kill the animals or they give it away to others who will use it. :)

I can't stand poachers though!!!!:|
 

snow patrol

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Does fishing count? I've been fishing twice in my entire life, but I never actually managed to catch a thing because I'm rubbish. :eek: Probably for the best :)
 

Regine

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I wouldn't be able to kill anything myself, but the animals sure are tasty ;)
 

Ulfwald

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I chose not to hunt, simply because i do not possess the ability to pull the trigger on anything that is not attacking me or my family, but I do agree with the right to hunt for many reasons.

1) With the decline of natural pedators in the wild, many deer populations go unchecked and then wind up dying due to starvation and disease. They also cause havoc on the trees by striping the bark for food.

2) Hunting permits and the fees they generate help to fund relocation and re population programs thus increasing the population in arears that were once abused for hunting. They also provide the funds necessary to help game wardens pursue poachers.

3) Many hunters who hunt save a lot of money by providing their families with a natural meat free from hormones and is usually so lean that there is little fat at all.

There are many other reasons, but i am at work and can't get into a lengthy debate.

Although a true sport is being able to stalk your prey, and kill it cleanly with 1 arrow.
 

DanC

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I used to hunt. Got quite a bit of pleasure stalking up on Bambi, looking at those innocent eyes through my 7x14 variable scope, and putting 180 grain jacketed hollow-point in a location that would ensure instant kill.

Don't do it any more, there's so little sport in it... besides, that would put me up in the mountains with the same morons that I find on the roads, and they would have GUNS! - frightening scenario.

Knife season for Elk? - now that would be sporting.

Hunting is perfectly respectable. Wounding an animal, having it suffer - that's wrong. I believe if you're going to be a hunter, you should first be marksman enough to kill cleanly, instantly, painlessly. My 2 cents.
 

Marty

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You know what? The animals shot by hunters probably die a much more humane and painless death than those cattle that end up on your plate. I don't hunt, I don't even have a gun, but when you take a look at the wider picture, it probably isn't as cruel as that which we have come to accept as reasonable.

Marty
 

Engine

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Hunting isn't really my thing, but having seen so many deer lying on the side of the road in various stages of dismemberment, I wholeheartedly agree with deer hunting. If we can keep the deer population from getting too big, they don't starve. If they're not starving, they won't be crossing as many highways looking for more food. If they don't cross highways, they don't get smacked by 18-wheelers (or even worse, cars).
 

desy

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Unless you are a pure vegetarian you also are engauaged in the activety of killing innocent animals and I have very little respect for you as well. You don't got the guts to do the dirty work and because its comes to you on a plate you are &quot;sanitized of the act&quot;
The whole farnming industry is far more cruel and demeaning to animals than foraging for them. Unless you have ever spent a day hunting its one of those life experiences you can't have or understand and should shut up.
You've probably grown up in city and are so detached from nature other that the two weeks you go hiking a year you are clueless clueless clueless.
I don't defend trophy hunters all that much but I tolerate it cause once animal activists shut them down they are coming after me as a subsistance hunter next. They are the minority the whole industry has changed in the last 20/30 years and gone are the days of drunks driving around the coutry side shooting up road signs.
Yes there is always some of that but don't latch on to the 3% that do and penalize the rest. Hunting is actually a deeper connection to nature that man has existed with for thousands of yrs. Just cause the world has been a pretty cushy place for 10% of us for 100 yrs or so doesn't mean you can change a fundamenatal part of human existance. There is a reason why males are more muscular and larger than females it is to protect and to provide. Humans are PREDATORS we are right up there on the food chain with lions and wolves. I don't acutally enjoy the killing of the animal as you enjoy the hunt with others or a solitary accomplishment. Its a strange mix of pride and achievment coupled with remorse for the life you have taken and until you experience it you will never understand.
 

Genius

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Let's go hunter hunting! Now that would be sport. Has anyone ever read the short story Most Dangerous Game?
 

yakko

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I did a little when I was young. Now if I go, which is real rare, I hunt the sneaky beercan and the elusive major appliance.
 

DanC

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<< I don't believe in hunting and think the bastards who do it should be shot dead like the animals they kill >>


Interesting double-standard.

Just a guess, you'll be voting for &quot;the man who invented the dog&quot; in the upcoming election? :Q
 

Ulfwald

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Desy, That is by far the most logical and mature response to this thread I have seen so far. I salute you sir/mam. May God guide you and all your hunting be safe and your shots true and clean.
 

Regine

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How many people that are against hunting here are actually vegetarians? The steak that you bought at the supermarket didn't exactly just fall out of the sky. The meat that you and I eat on a regular basis comes from animals that were killed in many times in worse ways than a hunter would.

And like other people have mentioned, with the overpopulation of deer in a lot of parts of the country, hunting is necessary in order to control the population. I'd rather get some use out of hunting while controlling the deer population, like the consumption of meat. So, while I'm not gonna go out and shoot Bambi myself, I have nothing against it as long as it is done by experienced people in a humane way.
 

Viper GTS

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innocent animals

There's no such thing. Animals have no soul, and no sense of right and wrong.

I personally don't hunt, but I defend the rights of hunters to hunt &amp; fish. That's been an important of humanity since the beginning of time. No, it's not nice, sterile, or pretty, but it's part of life.

Viper GTS
 

yakko

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I am a vegetarian but I am not against hunting. As long as the hunting is not just to kill and the animal is put to good use.
 
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I don't like the killing part of animals. And yes, I have seen the videos of farmers killing cows, chickens, etc. Anyone ever seen the ones where they keep calves inside small locked cages where they can't move around? Makes the veil a lot easier to eat (or so they claim). I know how they treat animals and dont like it, but I eat meat because I'm accustomed to it and I'd have a hard time living without it. Your point is well made Desy, but what makes me sick is when people kill deer, bears, and other wildlife, cut their heads off, dispose of the bodies, and stuff their kill and hang it over their fireplace, as some sort of sick symbolism that &quot;hey I killed this innocent animal with a gun, I'm special!&quot;. And in a sick sort of way, I ENJOY seeing those &quot;when animals attack&quot; shows on fox (unless its a little kid getting maimed).