**POLL** 9800 pro users, are you using stock cooling?
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Back to the main topic.. I am debating picking up a 9800 Pro right now, if I did go with a Sapphire/ATi unit, I would definatly pick up the VGA Silencer as an extra cooler if I did purchase the card. But I found the HIS version to already come with this cooler (which is the one I'm currently debating to purchase) already installed as the "stock cooling" (which IMO, should be counted as "no"). I'll vote "results" since I don't own a 9800Pro, but if I did have one, I'd vote no.
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wouldnt it be a lot more $$$ to get the HIS rather than the Sapphire + VGA silencer???
wouldnt it be a lot more $$$ to get the HIS rather than the Sapphire + VGA silencer???
Newegg has the HIS in retail form for $249 w/ free express shipping... It comes with the VGA Silencer already installed, and some Ramsinks (I will not include that as apart of the price).
The Sapphire as OEM is $207, and in retail is $216, and the VGA Silencer is $26 from newegg. Though, you can find the VGA Silencer for $20 from SVC, but you're adding almost $7 in shipping anyway.
OEM (w/o shipping): 207 + 26 = $233
Retail (w/o shipping): 216 + 26 = $242
You can easily add $10 for shipping (my shipping estimate from newegg). Though, depending where you live, It may be more or less.
OEM Shipped = $243
Retail Shipped = $252
I say since the HIS is in retail form, it would be fair to compare the retail versions (plus, If the HIS wasn't an option, I would pick up the Sapphire retail for just $9 more). Price difference isn't that significant, you're only saving $6 with the OEM Sapphire, and you're actually spending $3 more for the Retail. The HIS also has the Ramsinks, and the cooler already installed, so you can't mess things up. Since the cooler is already installed, it wouldn't void your warranty. Thats why I think HIS is the best route to go at the moment if you're looking to purchase a new card with a better cooler for the Radeon 9800 Pro.
The Sapphire as OEM is $207, and in retail is $216, and the VGA Silencer is $26 from newegg. Though, you can find the VGA Silencer for $20 from SVC, but you're adding almost $7 in shipping anyway.
OEM (w/o shipping): 207 + 26 = $233
Retail (w/o shipping): 216 + 26 = $242
You can easily add $10 for shipping (my shipping estimate from newegg). Though, depending where you live, It may be more or less.
OEM Shipped = $243
Retail Shipped = $252
I say since the HIS is in retail form, it would be fair to compare the retail versions (plus, If the HIS wasn't an option, I would pick up the Sapphire retail for just $9 more). Price difference isn't that significant, you're only saving $6 with the OEM Sapphire, and you're actually spending $3 more for the Retail. The HIS also has the Ramsinks, and the cooler already installed, so you can't mess things up. Since the cooler is already installed, it wouldn't void your warranty. Thats why I think HIS is the best route to go at the moment if you're looking to purchase a new card with a better cooler for the Radeon 9800 Pro.
sapphire 9800pro with the arctic cooling silencer on special from svc for $9.99 a few days ago. this works great except i had to mill off some of the acrtic cooling silencer since my 9800pro has a shim over the vpu.
for anyone who is going to use a mill and has the same problem, it's 0.010" square that you need to relieve around the vpu to have the cooler touch the vpu.
for anyone who is going to use a mill and has the same problem, it's 0.010" square that you need to relieve around the vpu to have the cooler touch the vpu.
Stock cooling of course. Most videocard overclocks are next to worthless. Wanna overclock something, look to your cpu.
Most people dont replace the stock cooler for overclocking reasons although it does help in that area. Most replace it to get a cooler, quieter system. The Silencer is much quieter than the stock HS/F and directly exhausts the GPU heat from your case.Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Stock cooling of course. Most videocard overclocks are next to worthless. Wanna overclock something, look to your cpu.
I ordered an arctic silencer but cancelled it because I don't think it's necessary. I just remove the slot cover for the PCI slot next to the video card. Cool air will directly flow over the video card fan.
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And where does all the heat (its a lot) coming off the GPU HS go? It stays in your case raising the temp of everything else.
The problem with the ATX design is it is one big plenum. The heat from the two major contributors, the CPU and GPU have no direct intake or exhaust path. They just use the air in the case. BTX will fix that. In the mean time, things can be improved a little with the current ATX design.
What I have done with my setup:
CPU:
HS has a 80mm fan with a duct running to lower front of case. This draws in cool outside air directly to the CPU instead of using hot case air. This also makes this one fan double as a CPU and intake fan. The PS intake fan above the CPU and 80mm rear case fan behind it do a farly good job of expelling the hot CPU air coming off the HS
GPU:
Hard to get a dedicated intake path, but using the Silencer cooler directly removes the GPU heat from the system instead of blowing it back into the case.
The CPU/intake fan (Panaflo M1A) and rear case fan (Panaflo L1A) are both RPM controlled based on temp via Speedfan The Antec True330 fans are also variable rpm, temp controlled.
I have a fast, cool and VERY quiet system with this setup. The Arctic Cooling Silencer is a great product.
No, the heat from the GPU doesn't stay in the case. the CPU exhuast fan is powerful enough to get the air out. I have a dell 8300 btw. I think it works pretty well so far.
Sure, a case fan or CPU/Case fan combo like Dell uses will exhaust the hot air out. The heat always gets out eventually unless you have a sealed system with no vents or fans. The downside is, you are pulling that hot GPU heat through your CPU venting system, which makes your CPU run hotter. It is better to get rid of the GPU heat directly.
It is surprising just how HOT the air is that comes out of the back of the Silencer! I'd rather get rid of that hot air directly.
BTW, Dell does a better job than any other OEM with case/cooling design. Their systems are very quiet and well designed. You actually do have a dedicated CPU heat exhaust path. I did these mods to have a very quiet system. Dell is quiet to begin with.
Is that 9800P an OEM Dell? Someone told me they use a variable speed cooling fan on it. True?
It is surprising just how HOT the air is that comes out of the back of the Silencer! I'd rather get rid of that hot air directly.
BTW, Dell does a better job than any other OEM with case/cooling design. Their systems are very quiet and well designed. You actually do have a dedicated CPU heat exhaust path. I did these mods to have a very quiet system. Dell is quiet to begin with.
Is that 9800P an OEM Dell? Someone told me they use a variable speed cooling fan on it. True?
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