Poll: 78% of GOP Fox News Viewers Say Trump Is Best President Ever

[soulcougher73]

Can we get a thread title edit? I believe it should read "78% of GOP Fox News viewers are stupid, with the other 22% not far behind" for clarity's sake

 

[Jhhnn]

I think he was trying to maintain the integrity of the institution he works in. The problem with that is that the institution is being torn down by the president himself.

He sure as Hell doesn't want to help.

 

[ivwshane]

He sure as Hell doesn't want to help.

Oh but he did. Now instead of being put in check by his own branch of government and a fellow Republican, he's allowed trump and Barr to set the narrative.

 

[DarthKyrie]

The General knew his faults which is why he surrounded himself with some of the best strategists in the Colonies, Hamilton was his righthand man throughout much of the Revolutionary War.

I have to wonder what these people that think Trump is the Greatest President think about what FDR accomplished for the country during the Great Depression.

Thousands of them wouldn't be farming the Great Plains if it hadn't been for FDR.
Millions of them would be without electricity still if it hadn't been for FDR and his demand for every home in America being able to receive electricity.
Millions more of them would have to deal with flooding much more often than they do thanks to the dam and levee systems built under FDR.
The TVA wouldn't have been done, leaving the entire Tennessee river valley the backwater it was prior to the TVA with no electricity.
The Hoover Dam wouldn't have been built, the modern western United States wouldn't exist in its current state without it.

Where are our Conservative friends to tell us all about how Trump is the greatest President this country has ever had?

 

[HomerJS]

Where are our Conservative friends to tell us all about how Trump is the greatest President this country has ever had?

George Washington and Abraham Lincoln are a bunch of losers

 

[Moonbeam]

Where are our Conservative friends to tell us all about how Trump is the greatest President this country has ever had?

Out celebrating with the Russians over how they've divided Democrats on Mueller and who takes the the political heat for impeachment. It's a study in moral character, something we seem to believe we once had. Looks like we liked to emphasize when it historically appeared to push out of consciousness just how rare it actually is. Fear and cowardliness are the result of insecurity and stress, vastly exaggerated, in my opinion, by a selfishly competitive society ad driven to be full of a desire for material things. It seems to me that the more selfish and needy people are, the more you can sell them garbage. I may be poor and a nobody but I belong to a Mega Church, and my life is Mega all the way down, right?

 

[kage69]

Idk, I'm seeing more and more of this kind of reaction as the pain piles up, but then I am in New England.

I still feel it's significant for a guy who won narrowly in 2016, and who has since confirmed that he's a mentally ill racist, crook and traitor about to be impeached.

 

[Moonbeam]

Idk, I'm seeing more and more of this kind of reaction as the pain piles up, but then I am in New England.

I still feel it's significant for a guy who won narrowly in 2016, and who has since confirmed that he's a mentally ill racist, crook and traitor about to be impeached.

I see a race to enslave the American mind before it become clear to everybody who votes they have been had by money in politics. In my opinion both parties let down the working citizen. It's going to require a socialist revolution to gain trust back, the one thing they have been trained most to fear.

 

[kage69]

I see a race to enslave the American mind before it become clear to everybody who votes they have been had by money in politics. In my opinion both parties let down the working citizen. It's going to require a socialist revolution to gain trust back, the one thing they have been trained most to fear.

While I abhor how money has corrupted so much of our democracy, in fairness I should point out there are candidates from at least one party that are saying no to PAC money. Same folks who are advocating much needed campaign finance, that corporations can be people when Texas executes one and that money is not speech. Perhaps the notion of "clear" needs work. I would hesitate to use the term enslave myself. Slaves are typically made by force, and once a slave one yearns to be free. I see the opposite with those lulled into believing Fox and talk radio. They willingly, even gleefully, embrace the agenda that keeps them struggling, as it undermines democracy, then they defend it in the face of demonstrable facts.

A lot of trust has been lost, agreed, all around. Show me someone still wearing a MAGA hat and I'll show you someone I wouldn't trust with a burnt out match. I tend to sympathize with people's financial plights but that starts to evaporate when they support impeachable and treasonous conduct.

Not sure about revolution, but I'd settle for economy crushing white collar crime getting some real deterrents in the legal code. How about we put the kabash on all this 'privatize the success, socialize the failure' nonsense, hell, why not outlaw corruption? This is one of the reasons I support Elizabeth Warren. She will give the crooks hell.

 

[sportage]

THE POLL MAKES SENSE

Many many many Trump people have a history.
Whether democrat or republican or independent or non political affiliation, they all have one thing in common.
They typically vote the odd man.
They have voted Ross Perot, and Ralph Nader, Bernie Sanders, anyone other than a candidate from a major political party.
They may be a member but they seldom vote party affiliation.

So..... when Donald Trump came along, for them it was the perfect storm. Their third party candidates of past all rolled into one.
Donald Trump was and still is their perfect odd ball candidate.
The guy that bucks the system and resists conformity.
That is what they want and that is what they waited for all these years.

To Trump's credit, Trump realized that trend.
Trump heard those voices.
Trump took advantage of an opening he knew was coming but the main stream establishment failed to detect.

Everyone was blind sided by Donald Trump.
Many rejoiced they finally had someone they could believe in.
And the others never imagined Trump would be taken seriously.
This is why and how we got a Donald Trump.
What the worry should be is, that old establishment may have died forever. In the future we will see a lot more Donald Trump's and very few Jeb Bush's and Hilary Clinton's.

If that is the case, just imagine a future where the candidates are so off the wall, so outrageous, so insane that we will look back and think of Donald Trump as THE NORMAL ONE.

 

[Muse]

I see a race to enslave the American mind before it become clear to everybody who votes they have been had by money in politics. In my opinion both parties let down the working citizen. It's going to require a socialist revolution to gain trust back, the one thing they have been trained most to fear.

Where I live (Berkeley, CA), the idea that a revolution was imminent was widespread among many, including myself. I'm talking 1970-ish. By the middle 1970's it was becoming clear that the revolutionary ideals (simple human rights, actually), the expressions they had engendered, artistically and culturally in general, were being coopted by the mainstream culture and no revolution was in the offing.

Now, the conservative element in America and likely in-betweeners have been, shall we say, hypnotized to think ill of the word "socialist."
A word is a symbol, and it can be demonized. For instance, "liberal" has been demonized. Even the term "politically correct," has been demonized, go figure!

One way to undo the damage done by repeatedly demonizing words (and the Pavlovian effect) is to use another word or set of words. There's more than one way to skin a racoon and a facility with words will really help with dodging the prevarication tactics of the lobbying moneyed interests and their agents (i.e. politicians).

How about "intrinsically fair regulatory environment?" OK, a bit unwieldy, but I like the thought.

 

[VRAMdemon]

So long as the Murdochs are making massive profits by keeping a third of the population in a fact-proof bubble, they will stay in that bubble.

 

[Moonbeam]

While I abhor how money has corrupted so much of our democracy, in fairness I should point out there are candidates from at least one party that are saying no to PAC money. Same folks who are advocating much needed campaign finance, that corporations can be people when Texas executes one and that money is not speech. Perhaps the notion of "clear" needs work. I would hesitate to use the term enslave myself. Slaves are typically made by force, and once a slave one yearns to be free. I see the opposite with those lulled into believing Fox and talk radio. They willingly, even gleefully, embrace the agenda that keeps them struggling, as it undermines democracy, then they defend it in the face of demonstrable facts.

A lot of trust has been lost, agreed, all around. Show me someone still wearing a MAGA hat and I'll show you someone I wouldn't trust with a burnt out match. I tend to sympathize with people's financial plights but that starts to evaporate when they support impeachable and treasonous conduct.

Not sure about revolution, but I'd settle for economy crushing white collar crime getting some real deterrents in the legal code. How about we put the kabash on all this 'privatize the success, socialize the failure' nonsense, hell, why not outlaw corruption? This is one of the reasons I support Elizabeth Warren. She will give the crooks hell.

By socialist revolution I mean people like Sanders and Warren, the wing of the Democratic party focused on the ever widening income gap that will destroy our regulated capitalist system. These types are despised on the right and a maximum effort will be made to insure they never get elected. They also terrify the wing of the party that is fearful of alienating business and having zilch for campaign contributions. I believe the party moderated after Reagan because it feared that Republican money would overwhelm them at the polls. Money in politics and the need for it is why, in my opinion, labor, and the protection of American jobs against globalization for the working class took a back seat to corporate interests in the Democratic Party. I think all those fears are still around. I think B. Clinton was central in all of this. So we live in a political system that runs on contributions and will do what it takes to get them.

PS: This was supposed to have been posted yesterday.