Poll: 70% of Republicans still don't think Joe Biden won the election. Why?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar

Why do 70% of Republicans still think Biden was not legitimately elected?

  • Total voters
    78
J

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
It's the New Birtherism. The New Silent Majority. They've been conditioned into unwarranted fear & disdain for the rest of America.
 
hal2kilo

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
23,413
10,304
136
I think this article fits in the general theme of this thread. People keep looking for someone to save the GOP from itself. Problem is they are their own worst enemies.

Paul Ryan can’t save the GOP — he is still a huge part of the problem | Salon.com

Liz Cheney's latest comments came in an off-the-record interview with former House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis. Ryan, you'll recall, now sits on the board of Fox News, where one executive told Vanity Fair in 2019, "Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it."

Paul Ryan may have the power to do something about it, but unlike Cheney (who at least voted to impeach Trump) he hasn't. Instead, he's been cashing in at the right-wing network and watched as Tucker Carlson has risen to the top spot by spewing barely diluted white nationalism. Ryan wouldn't even say anything after Trump celebrated Mitt Romney, the man Ryan ran on a presidential ticket with a few short years back, being booed by his hometown crowd. The media-supported myth that Ryan was a serious, responsible lawmaker propped up this malevolent character for far too long.

This is the incentive problem in the so-called conservative movement that no one seems to want to grapple with. A similar, but not identical, incentive structure led the Washington Post to host Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley for a livestream on Tuesday, where the Republican defended raising his fist in solidarity with a mob that would eventually rush the Capitol armed with weapons and in search of his colleagues. He went on to complain that he was being canceled when a Post reporter merely attempted to correct the record about his continued mischaracterization of the election in Pennsylvania, a state that was specifically targeted with misinformation by the Trump campaign. It's why CNN's Don Lemon hosted Pennsylvania's former Republican senator, Rick Santorum, after the conservative pundit baselessly asserted that Native American culture is not American culture.
 
woolfe9998

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
16,188
14,091
136
Jhhnn said:
It's the New Birtherism. The New Silent Majority. They've been conditioned into unwarranted fear & disdain for the rest of America.
Click to expand...

No, it's the old silent majority. It never left.

If anyone wants an insight into why they believe this lie, it's because they simply cannot accept the fact that their views are not currently the majority views among Americans. Since they think that any decent American would necessarily agree with them 100%, they just assume that democrats can only win by way of fraud, and so are ready to believe anyone who purports to corroborate the assumption.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mxpw, dank69, ch33zw1z and 1 other person
nakedfrog

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
58,128
12,314
136
hal2kilo said:
I think this article fits in the general theme of this thread. People keep looking for someone to save the GOP from itself. Problem is they are their own worst enemies.

Paul Ryan can’t save the GOP — he is still a huge part of the problem | Salon.com

Liz Cheney's latest comments came in an off-the-record interview with former House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis. Ryan, you'll recall, now sits on the board of Fox News, where one executive told Vanity Fair in 2019, "Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it."

Paul Ryan may have the power to do something about it, but unlike Cheney (who at least voted to impeach Trump) he hasn't. Instead, he's been cashing in at the right-wing network and watched as Tucker Carlson has risen to the top spot by spewing barely diluted white nationalism. Ryan wouldn't even say anything after Trump celebrated Mitt Romney, the man Ryan ran on a presidential ticket with a few short years back, being booed by his hometown crowd. The media-supported myth that Ryan was a serious, responsible lawmaker propped up this malevolent character for far too long.

This is the incentive problem in the so-called conservative movement that no one seems to want to grapple with. A similar, but not identical, incentive structure led the Washington Post to host Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley for a livestream on Tuesday, where the Republican defended raising his fist in solidarity with a mob that would eventually rush the Capitol armed with weapons and in search of his colleagues. He went on to complain that he was being canceled when a Post reporter merely attempted to correct the record about his continued mischaracterization of the election in Pennsylvania, a state that was specifically targeted with misinformation by the Trump campaign. It's why CNN's Don Lemon hosted Pennsylvania's former Republican senator, Rick Santorum, after the conservative pundit baselessly asserted that Native American culture is not American culture.
Click to expand...
Again and again and again they show there's nothing so holy as the Almighty Dollar.
 
Vic

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,415
14,305
136
M

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
72,398
6,077
126
Fenixgoon said:
one of the best moonbeam posts ever. 10/10 would read again.
Click to expand...
Thanks! As far as why Republicans are unable to rationally deal with reality, I believe it is due to cowardice. We were all made to feel worthless as children, and that can vary by intensity and degree. The major way in which it happens is that our parents know long before we did the danger of being different.

They, having been conditioned by their own parents to be emotionally dead drones who don’t stick out transfer to us all of those fears.

Live in the prison of social and church rules where the sheep are all exactly the same and nobody sticks out. Any who do risk being ostracized and additionally attract attention to the rest of the family. There are thus pitchforks and the threat of all manner of hell waiting for us right there under the bed.

It is perfectly reasonable to expect from frightened animals they will have only programmed rote moral behavior and completely lack introspection or impulse for truth seeking. They live their lives essentially at the level of our ignorant ancestors huddled in caves.

It is the inner emptiness of such a life that drives some to search, some few who for one reason or another can still feel something was lost.
 
MrSquished

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
21,168
19,644
136
It's a lot of evil deplorables folks. These are the same people that in history have become fascists, Nazis, maoists, stalinists, etc...

That's the base of the GQP today. In America.

Get a gun. Stay vigilant.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Leeea and hal2kilo
blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
J

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
MrSquished said:
It's a lot of evil deplorables folks. These are the same people that in history have become fascists, Nazis, maoists, stalinists, etc...

That's the base of the GQP today. In America.

Get a gun. Stay vigilant.
Click to expand...

Funny how you manage to sound like them.
 
MrSquished

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
21,168
19,644
136
Jhhnn said:
Funny how you manage to sound like them.
Click to expand...
How do I sound like them? They support overthrowing democracy. They have cult like adoration to an authoritarian fascist demagogue. They do not believe in truth
It's time to stop being weak when describing the enemies of democracy. They are the same as those groups from history I mentioned. It's time for Americans to wake up, this isnt the time to placate these people by calling them nice names. Those who don't learn from history....Wake up dude.
 
Last edited:
K1052

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
46,021
32,993
136
  • Like
Reactions: mxpw, nakedfrog, cytg111 and 4 others
blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
K1052 said:
If the party is willing to go along with the lie to maintain power there is no functional difference if they actually believe it or not. The results are the same.
Click to expand...
It doesn't look like party is so much as their followers. Which is still bad for them come election time.
 
J

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
blackangst1 said:
It doesn't look like party is so much as their followers. Which is still bad for them come election time.
Click to expand...

Trump gave them what they wanted- tax cuts for the Rich, deregulation, packing the federal bench with ideologues & so forth. And the Base loves him desperately. Even insurrection wasn't enough to peel them off of the Trump train. Lying for Trump is just like lying about everything else. They believe in nothing beyond wealth & power.
 
blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
22,914
2,359
126
Jhhnn said:
Trump gave them what they wanted- tax cuts for the Rich, deregulation, packing the federal bench with ideologues & so forth. And the Base loves him desperately. Even insurrection wasn't enough to peel them off of the Trump train. Lying for Trump is just like lying about everything else. They believe in nothing beyond wealth & power.
Click to expand...
So you're ok with the current efforts by Democrats to stack the courts? And you're ok with Bidens efforts at taxing the rich? I am, because it won't change the wealth of the wealthy to make a difference.

Edit and there's a difference between filling vacant spots in scotus and adding additional spots. One is attacking one isn't. Are you smart enough to know the difference?
 
Last edited:
R

rommelrommel

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2002
4,382
3,111
146
blackangst1 said:
So you're ok with the current efforts by Democrats to stack the courts? And you're ok with Bidens efforts at taxing the rich? I am, because it won't change the wealth of the wealthy to make a difference.

Edit and there's a difference between filling vacant spots in scotus and adding additional spots. One is attacking one isn't. Are you smart enough to know the difference?
Click to expand...

"Efforts" seem a little pale relative to the actual court stacking that was Garland/Gorsuch.
 
J

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
blackangst1 said:
So you're ok with the current efforts by Democrats to stack the courts? And you're ok with Bidens efforts at taxing the rich? I am, because it won't change the wealth of the wealthy to make a difference.

Edit and there's a difference between filling vacant spots in scotus and adding additional spots. One is attacking one isn't. Are you smart enough to know the difference?
Click to expand...

Duh-vert more. The GOP wanted right wing toadies, and Trump served 'em up.
 
R

rommelrommel

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2002
4,382
3,111
146
blackangst1 said:
So you don't know the difference. Got it.
Click to expand...

If delaying a confirmation indefinitely for no reason other than to get the result you want is not court stacking, why would changing the court composition be substantially different?

You're pretty much advancing the premise that anything legal is not court stacking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Meghan54 and cytg111
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom