Poll: 60 percent disapprove of Trump, while clear majorities back Mueller and Sessions

Meghan54

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President Trump’s disapproval rating has hit a high point of 60 percent, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll that also finds that clear majorities of Americans support the special counsel’s Russia investigation and say the president should not fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Overall, 60 percent of Americans disapprove of Trump’s job performance, with 36 percent approving, according to the poll. This is only a slight shift from the last Post-ABC survey, in April, which measured Trump’s rating at 56 percent disapproval and 40 percent approval.

The new poll was conducted Aug. 26 to 29, in the week after former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was convicted of federal tax and bank fraud and after former Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty and implicated the president in illegal payments to silence women who alleged sexual encounters with Trump.


...63 percent of Americans support Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, with 52 percent saying they support it strongly; 29 percent oppose the probe.

...67 percent of Americans think Mueller’s case against Manafort was justified, while 17 percent say it was unjustified, according to the poll.

Two-thirds of Americans oppose Trump pardoning Manafort — 53 percent strongly oppose it — and 18 percent support a pardon.

Sixty-four percent of Americans do not think Trump should fire Sessions, with 19 percent saying he should and 17 percent saying they have no opinion. Nearly half of Republicans, 47 percent, say Trump should not fire the attorney general, with 31 percent saying he should.

Nearly half of Americans, 49 percent, say Congress should begin impeachment proceedings that could lead to Trump being removed from office, while 46 percent say Congress should not.

And a narrow majority — 53 percent — say they think Trump has tried to interfere with Mueller’s investigation in a way that amounts to obstruction of justice; 35 percent say they do not think the president has tried to interfere.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ck-mueller-and-sessions/ar-BBMGZQx?li=BBnb7Kz


So, Trump's approval continues to bounce around his base number, little else. Interesting that the majority of the U.S. wants Sessions kept in his position, keep Mueller in place and working, and no pardon for Manafort. Wonder what, if any, repercussions Trump would face if he did any/all.
 

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Climbing through some of the detail on the poll exposes a large and growing chasm in many of the questions with independent voters who as a share of party ID appear to outnumber Republicans or Democrats. Some people might consider this a problem.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Just a comment on their their poll numbers.

What it means is that more people support the investigation than not, and trust Mueller more than Trump. Considering that Trump refutes his own recorded statements as faked, like the NBC interview, it's understandable why Trump has no credibility as demonstrated by his own words, not those of another.
 

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If Trump manages to end the Mueller probe without being removed from office then our system of government will have collapsed.
 

woolfe9998

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That poll shows more in favor of impeachment than not in favor. I hope that isn't an outlier, but it kind of sounds like it.
 

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Unfortunately, the poll means nothing...shit will continue unabated...unless the Dems take the House and Senate in November. (Even then, it’s doubtful)
 

fskimospy

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That poll shows more in favor of impeachment than not in favor. I hope that isn't an outlier, but it kind of sounds like it.

Hard to know, it's from one of the best polling operations there is but as you allude to it's a single poll and the same rules apply to polls you like as to polls you don't like.
 

fskimospy

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And then what?

Then we will live under a quasi-democracy like the ones in Eastern Europe where we still have elections and the trappings of democracy but no real democratic rule still exists.

That’s not a joke and it’s not hyperbole. We will have a situation where the chief executive is, at a minimum, strongly suspected of illegally conspiring with a hostile foreign government to take power and then effectively immunized himself from law enforcement’s attempts to discern if that’s true.
 
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fskimospy

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Interment camps, war, a wall? I dunno just going by history.

That’s possible, but there’s also the strong possibility where we turn into some sort of Eastern Europe/Russia situation where you have a single party state that mostly acts like normal states, only the party steadily loots the country.

Hmm. We may not be that far from that now.
 

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That’s possible, but there’s also the strong possibility where we turn into some sort of Eastern Europe/Russia situation where you have a single party state that mostly acts like normal states, only the party steadily loots the country.

Hmm. We may not be that far from that now.
I have put forward the notion that democracy is dead.

I am interested,were this to come to pass, if the military would intervene. Even as a know-nothing I just can’t imagine them allowing it. It’s on the order of feeling that young people would never vote to tax old people out of their homes.
 

fskimospy

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I have put forward the notion that democracy is dead.

I am interested,were this to come to pass, if the military would intervene. Even as a know-nothing I just can’t imagine them allowing it.

The coup doesn’t come with tanks in the street and the military will not intervene.

It’s on the order of feeling that young people would never vote to tax old people out of their homes.

A better analogy would be old people voting themselves a special tax break to protect their enormous financial windfalls while the young people suffer. We are quite good at that.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The coup doesn’t come with tanks in the street and the military will not intervene.



A better analogy would be old people voting themselves a special tax break to protect their enormous financial windfalls while the young people suffer. We are quite good at that.


I'm not familiar with there being enough old people with enormous windfalls that could vote themselves one.

Anyway, there are always possibilities which I don't plan on implimenting and best not overtly stated.
 

Jhhnn

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The coup doesn’t come with tanks in the street and the military will not intervene.



A better analogy would be old people voting themselves a special tax break to protect their enormous financial windfalls while the young people suffer. We are quite good at that.

Your ageist rhetoric is tedious. There are a whole shitpile of older Americans in the poorhouse & more coming every day. It's not about age. It's about a predatory financial elite, most of whom are simply older. Even if the .0001% is mostly older they're still the .0001% & not representative of older Americans at all.
 

woolfe9998

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Hard to know, it's from one of the best polling operations there is but as you allude to it's a single poll and the same rules apply to polls you like as to polls you don't like.

Right, though I just noticed something over at fivethirtyeight. Trump's approval has moved downward a couple points over these past few weeks, and perhaps more importantly, the dem lead in the generic ballot has also widened.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo
 

fskimospy

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Your ageist rhetoric is tedious. There are a whole shitpile of older Americans in the poorhouse & more coming every day. It's not about age. It's about a predatory financial elite, most of whom are simply older. Even if the .0001% is mostly older they're still the .0001% & not representative of older Americans at all.

And none of those old people in the poorhouse own million dollar houses because if they did they wouldn’t be in the fucking poorhouse.