[POLL] 1/3 of US Students Think the Press has too Much Freedom

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Some U.S. Students Say Press Freedoms Go Too Far

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

One in three U.S. high school students say the press ought to be more restricted, and even more say the government should approve newspaper stories before readers see them, according to a survey being released today.

The survey of 112,003 students finds that 36% believe newspapers should get "government approval" of stories before publishing; 51% say they should be able to publish freely; 13% have no opinion.

Asked whether the press enjoys "too much freedom," not enough or about the right amount, 32% say "too much," and 37% say it has the right amount. Ten percent say it has too little.

The survey of First Amendment rights was commissioned by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and conducted last spring by the University of Connecticut. It also questioned 327 principals and 7,889 teachers.

The findings aren't surprising to Jack Dvorak, director of the High School Journalism Institute at Indiana University in Bloomington. "Even professional journalists are often unaware of a lot of the freedoms that might be associated with the First Amendment," he says.

The survey "confirms what a lot of people who are interested in this area have known for a long time," he says: Kids aren't learning enough about the First Amendment in history, civics or English classes. It also tracks closely with recent findings of adults' attitudes.

"It's part of our Constitution, so this should be part of a formal education," says Dvorak, who has worked with student journalists since 1968.

Although a large majority of students surveyed say musicians and others should be allowed to express "unpopular opinions," 74% say people shouldn't be able to burn or deface an American flag as a political statement; 75% mistakenly believe it is illegal.

The U.S. Supreme Court in 1989 ruled that burning or defacing a flag is protected free speech. Congress has debated flag-burning amendments regularly since then; none has passed both the House and Senate.

Derek Springer, a first-year student at Ivy Tech State College in Muncie, Ind., credits his journalism adviser at Muncie Central High School with teaching students about the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech, press and religion.

Last year, Springer led a group of student journalists who exposed payments a local basketball coach made to players for such things as attending practices and blocking shots. The newspaper also questioned requirements that students register their cars with the school to get parking passes.

Because they studied the First Amendment, he says, "we know that we can publish our opinion, and that we might be scrutinized, but we know we didn't do anything wrong."

 

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I think some more restrictions should be placed on the press in terms of protecting the privacy of people, but as far as censorship of content, screw that.
 

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This is a GLARING example of the failures in our education system.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Injury
I think some more restrictions should be placed on the press in terms of protecting the privacy of people, but as far as censorship of content, screw that.

The only right related to privacy that you enjoy is from government. Your privacy beyond that is your responsibility.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Personally, I think there is too much trust in the Press.

You would trust your government more?

Trust has nothing to do with it. Freedom does.

Why are so many people becoming so scared of freedom?
 

edmicman

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how many of todays issues wouldn't be as big of a problem if reckless members of the media didn't blow them out of proportion? I for sure don't think government censorship is the answer, but maybe if members of the media practiced a little more consideration instead of trying to get the most views or ratings, we'd all be better off.
 

maddogchen

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Its High School people. Don't get too worked up. When they go off to college they start questioning everything they are taught.
 

Arkitech

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The press does have too much freedom in some areas


The first thing that came to my mind when I read this was seeing reporters on the news during firefights in Iraqi and similar areas. How can the US properly wage war when reporters are all over the freaking place? Not to mention the press leaked information that the goverment was tracking Sadaam's movements through his cell phone usage. Guess what, Sadaam found out and got rid of his cell phone. He was caught anyway, but it just proves that the press should'nt be everywhere especially in areas concerning national security.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: edmicman
how many of todays issues wouldn't be as big of a problem if reckless members of the media didn't blow them out of proportion? I for sure don't think government censorship is the answer, but maybe if members of the media practiced a little more consideration instead of trying to get the most views or ratings, we'd all be better off.

If that is the case, the answer lies with the people themselves.

But I see this is a common trend among some folks. They HATE the American consumer for not sharing the same tastes and values they do.

That just seems strange to me.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Modeps
Personally, I think there is too much trust in the Press.

You would trust your government more?

Trust has nothing to do with it. Freedom does.

Why are so many people becoming so scared of freedom?

I'm glad I scrolled a bit more to see your reply. I was going to say the exact same thing.

If we already can't trust the press 100%, what makes anyone think that having the government "approve" stories will make it more accurate? That's only something that is done in dictator-run countries, or "communist" countries (I use the word communist very loosely, because I don't believe that a true communist country has existed yet; however, it's a characteristic of the countries we consider to be communists).

Going back to what Amused said, what's so scary about freedom? I wonder what the forefathers of the country would say if they could see what's going on these days.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
The press does have too much freedom in some areas


The first thing that came to my mind when I read this was seeing reporters on the news during firefights in Iraqi and similar areas. How can the US properly wage war when reporters are all over the freaking place? Not to mention the press leaked information that the goverment was tracking Sadaam's movements through his cell phone usage. Guess what, Sadaam found out and got rid of his cell phone. He was caught anyway, but it just proves that the press should'nt be everywhere especially in areas concerning national security.

That's not the issue this story covers. Limiting press access is NOT the same as controlling what it reports. The military has every ability and right to limit the press access as much as it wants to.

BUT, if they limit press access too much, the public starts to wonder what is going on and starts accusing the military of all sorts of weird things.

So there is a very fine line, and it's a very hard line to find.
 

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I answered No and Yes respectively and only because of the way the second question was asked. I think in terms of some military operations, the government should have a tighter reign over what is published because often times, I think too much information is given about operations and put people's lives at risk. Beyond that, the government should have little control in the way of what is published in the media barring direct violation of the law.
 

maddogchen

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Should more restrictions be placed on the American press?
No its fine.


Should the government be able to approve news stories before the public reads them?
Yes if it pertains to current National Security interests. Such as for example if a reporter is embedded with troops the military should approve the news story to make sure that no sensitive information might be leaked out that would endanger troops or tip off the enemy.


 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Rogue
I answered No and Yes respectively and only because of the way the second question was asked. I think in terms of some military operations, the government should have a tighter reign over what is published because often times, I think too much information is given about operations and put people's lives at risk. Beyond that, the government should have little control in the way of what is published in the media barring direct violation of the law.

LIMITING ACCESS IS NOT THE SAME AS CONTROLLING CONTENT.

Please read the thread, folks.
 

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its High School people. Don't get too worked up. When they go off to college they start questioning everything they are taught.
which is probably less than half of the kids going onto college, probably less than 1/3.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Should more restrictions be placed on the American press?
No its fine.


Should the government be able to approve news stories before the public reads them?
Yes if it pertains to current National Security interests. Such as for example if a reporter is embedded with troops the military should approve the news story to make sure that no sensitive information might be leaked out that would endanger troops or tip off the enemy.

:::sigh:::

Again, limiting access is not the same as controlling content.
 

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its High School people. Don't get too worked up. When they go off to college they start questioning everything they are taught.

Then why do so many of them come to trust the government so much they think socialism is the only answer to everything they think needs fixing?
 

aplefka

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Okay, one angle I did not look at it seems to be the whole military angle. I suppose reporters getting tangled up with warfare probably isn't the best way to go about it, but this is the information age and that's a monster that society has created.

While it'd probably be good if the reporters weren't there, or at least if the information they reported was censored, I can't say that I'd support it. We already don't know everything about what's gone on in the Iraq war, and many people of other nation's question why we allow that kind of practice to continue. I don't think that censoring information we get would be good if the government isn't willing to sack up and tell us everything.
 

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Originally posted by: OverVolt
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Its High School people. Don't get too worked up. When they go off to college they start questioning everything they are taught.
which is probably less than half of the kids going onto college, probably less than 1/3.

exactly