Politics as usual- Scott Brown certified in 16 days although Tsongas was done in 2.

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-d...ossible-dem-delay-seating-scott-brown-argues-


So much for future complaints on the "41 seat majority". Dems seated Tsongas in 48 hours.

Brown? Well, read the article. He has to send a letter to everyone and his brother, then wait for a response.

I don't think that when the voters select a representative they want The Party to come first.

Waiting for the apologists...

:eek: <- surprised face... oh wait....


Sounds like the R party needs to step up and get the legals involved since that other dude is still voting even though he's not legally a senator anymore. Turn up the heat Steele...
 
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spidey07

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If they do that it will only piss off people more. It's a political death wish. I'll believe it when it happens as the article describes.

I thought the appointed Senator couldn't even vote? What's going on here?
 

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So much for future complaints on the "41 seat majority". Dems seated Tsongas in 48 hours.

Brown? Well, read the article. He has to send a letter to everyone and his brother, then wait for a response.

I don't think that when the voters select a representative they want The Party to come first.

Waiting for the apologists...

That article is dated 1/19. I thought the dems already said they weren't going to ram the health bill through during the time it took to get Brown seated. I also recall the projections of 10-14 days to get him seated. Do you have some information more current than this?

- wolf
 

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That article is dated 1/19. I thought the dems already said they weren't going to ram the health bill through during the time it took to get Brown seated. I also recall the projections of 10-14 days to get him seated. Do you have some information more current than this?

- wolf

Feb 11th is the tentative date, they hope.

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/...s-new-mass-senator-be-seated/?feat=home_blogs

He was elected on the 20th, and Tsongas was seated in two days. A lot of people expected this, and not all of them Republicans. Me for example. I've maintained that there isn't a dimes worth of difference between them. So far my track record on that is pretty good, which is a bit of a shame really.
 

Thump553

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Refresh my recollection-howmany months did it take Al Franken to get seated? How many useless appeals and delaying tactics were involved there? Even after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled, the GOP governor was threatening a US Supreme Court appeal?

But that of course was the "good guys" so their blatant partisanship and delaying tactics were noble, right?
 

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So much for future complaints on the "41 seat majority". Dems seated Tsongas in 48 hours.

Brown? Well, read the article. He has to send a letter to everyone and his brother, then wait for a response.

I don't think that when the voters select a representative they want The Party to come first.

Waiting for the apologists...
Well here in MA we are on Pins and Needles waiting for our next Senator. Actually there isn't much excitement at all among the constituents, We don't expect much if anything from him, his winning was just a message that we didn't want the health Bill in it's current form.
 

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-d...ossible-dem-delay-seating-scott-brown-argues-


So much for future complaints on the "41 seat majority". Dems seated Tsongas in 48 hours.

Brown? Well, read the article. He has to send a letter to everyone and his brother, then wait for a response.

I don't think that when the voters select a representative they want The Party to come first.

Waiting for the apologists...

Can we say total idiot....nobody ever gets sworn in right away when they win any type of election.
So with that out of the way whet in jeebeesus is your complaint??????
 

spidey07

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Refresh my recollection-howmany months did it take Al Franken to get seated? How many useless appeals and delaying tactics were involved there? Even after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled, the GOP governor was threatening a US Supreme Court appeal?

But that of course was the "good guys" so their blatant partisanship and delaying tactics were noble, right?

You can't be serious. The difference here is Brown got more than enough votes for it to be contested. The election of Brown is not in question. It is in seating him. Brown won by such a large margin they couldn't find votes in the trunk of a car.

apples and oranges.
 

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You can't be serious. The difference here is Brown got more than enough votes for it to be contested. The election of Brown is not in question. It is in seating him. Brown won by such a large margin they couldn't find votes in the trunk of a car.

apples and oranges.

Refresh my recollection-howmany months did it take Al Franken to get seated? How many useless appeals and delaying tactics were involved there? Even after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled, the GOP governor was threatening a US Supreme Court appeal?

But that of course was the "good guys" so their blatant partisanship and delaying tactics were noble, right?

Also, Al Franken is a "former comedian," and not a "former male model." Al Franken doesn't drive a truck, and I hear he don't surf. Plenty of reasons to keep Al Franken away from the Senate floor.

It's refreshing to see the GOP get down with the Brown. Michael Steele has done a wonderful job in turning things around, and "outta' sight!"
 

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Refresh my recollection-howmany months did it take Al Franken to get seated? How many useless appeals and delaying tactics were involved there? Even after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled, the GOP governor was threatening a US Supreme Court appeal?

But that of course was the "good guys" so their blatant partisanship and delaying tactics were noble, right?
Franken's issue was getting the state to approve that he had been elected

Brown's issue is getting the US Senate to which he was elected to acknowledge that he was chosen by the State of Mass to represent them.
 

Genx87

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Franken's issue was getting the state to approve that he had been elected

Brown's issue is getting the US Senate to which he was elected to acknowledge that he was chosen by the State of Mass to represent them.

And to nobody's surprise Dems were considering seating Franken anyways. Thumps case is bad.
 

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This is the same party that already rewrote the laws in that state on how they could replace a senator right? Yeah... like no one saw this coming...
 

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This is the same party that already rewrote the laws in that state on how they could replace a senator right? Yeah... like no one saw this coming...

Seeing how that backfired on them on this epic scale, maybe we can cut them some slack. :biggrin:
 

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Can we say total idiot....nobody ever gets sworn in right away when they win any type of election.
So with that out of the way whet in jeebeesus is your complaint??????

They are when the party in power needs the vote.

The election last year for NY's 23rd congressional district was held on Nov. 3. Before that very same week was done with, Owens was sworn in and cast his vote for the health care bill.
 

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This kind of childish stupidity will end up costing the dems yet again. People know dirty pool when they see it.

The comparison to the situation with Franken makes no sense. The issue there was the determination of who actually won the contested election. In Brown's case, there's no issue over who won. The dems are just stalling. If they can seat Tsongas and Kennedy in a couple of days, there's no reason they need to take this long to seat Brown -- except dirty politics.

I'm sure given the same opportunity, the repubs would not hesitate to do something similar. That's what's wrong with the country... two sides of a crappy coin.
 

MotF Bane

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Can we say total idiot....nobody ever gets sworn in right away when they win any type of election.
So with that out of the way whet in jeebeesus is your complaint??????

Now that you have clearly admitted your inability to read, I'll say again what he said - Tsongas, 48 hours. And I'll add what I said earlier - Kennedy, 24 hours. So much for your idea of nobody getting sworn in right away.
 

glenn1

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AHAHAHA!!! Politics as usual. Scott Brown to be seated in 3 or 4 weeks, maybe.

What difference does it make? The Democratic Party isn't accomplishing anything now with 60 votes; I'm not sure what having Scott Brown there to provide the 41st vote for the GOP is going to change anything.
 

MotF Bane

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Refresh my recollection-howmany months did it take Al Franken to get seated? How many useless appeals and delaying tactics were involved there? Even after the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled, the GOP governor was threatening a US Supreme Court appeal?

But that of course was the "good guys" so their blatant partisanship and delaying tactics were noble, right?

No comparison. A margin of victory of 312 votes versus a margin of victory of a little over 100,000.
 

JEDIYoda

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Now that you have clearly admitted your inability to read, I'll say again what he said - Tsongas, 48 hours. And I'll add what I said earlier - Kennedy, 24 hours. So much for your idea of nobody getting sworn in right away.

So much for you understanding those were very rqare exceptions to what normally happens....or are you going top pull a Patranus on us....
 

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So much for you understanding those were very rqare exceptions to what normally happens....or are you going top pull a Patranus on us....

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.
Seventeenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

the term of service of a Senator appointed to fill a vacancy in an unexpired term ends on the day when his successor is elected by the people
1939 Congressional Record, p. 998.

The people filled the vacancy January 19, 2010 by election.
While the election has not been certified it doesn't discount the fact that Krik's term ended at the point an election was conducted.