Politicians Delete Digital Praise of Bowe Bergdahl Release

[mrjminer]

I'm a registered small "i" independent, no party affiliation. No voting in primaries for either party. I weigh/smell the turd each party has chosen at election time and select the pile that weighs/stinks less. Unfortunately conservatives in our area have gone bonkers, much like the national party, and I have a feeling it is going to be some time before they stop stinking enough for me to vote for them again.

Luckily the teanuts have not been able to gain a foothold here so at least my neck of the woods is relatively sane. The head of the Republican party here wants my urine but I don't find that request unusual at all.

He's a teabagger scientist...lol!

I don't disagree that all political party affiliations are retarded. However, it is silly to criticize the politicians for switching sides of an issue when they find out their constituents want them to be on the other side of an issue. That's what you want them to do, regardless of their party. One of the reasons why I use the example of looking at the general population on the various "real" news site comments (ie: not the various hardcore democrat or hardcore republican sites) generally lambasting the decision is just because I think those are the places more likely to find the more "realistic" democrats and republicans. Less likely to encounter the complete 100% pure lunatics. If there is one thing that breaks through the average democrat or republican affiliation, it's fear, and that's really what people should feel when 5 dangerous radicals get traded for a guy like Bergdahl illegally in order to avoid bipartisan opposition.

 

[DrDoug]

Link? Because that is complete and utter bullshit. No chain of command, Team, Squad, Platoon, Company, Battalion, etc ...leader(ship) is going to give a soldier permission to take off out of the FOB to go wandering around in a war zone for funnzies, just as long as he doesn't take any equipment, ...ever. That shit doesn't happen, anyone that thinks it does is fucking clueless. If, in some alternate universe this did somehow happen, or was even a misunderstanding then the US military has gone batshit crazy.

I don't know if he actually received permission but...

In the early-morning hours of June 30th, according to soldiers in the unit, Bowe approached his team leader not long after he got off guard duty and asked his superior a simple question: If I were to leave the base, would it cause problems if I took my sensitive equipment? Yes, his team leader responded – if you took your rifle and night-vision goggles, that would cause problems.

According to reports he had also left the base on two previous occasions and was not reprimanded for those trips. He was known to spend time among the 'friendly' Afghan forces while on his forays.

 

[mrjminer]

I don't know if he actually received permission but...


According to reports he had also left the base on two previous occasions and was not reprimanded for those trips. He was known to spend time among the 'friendly' Afghan forces while on his forays.

One of the first articles that came out about this matter had an interview with the same commanding officer. The guy said that he thought the questions were odd at the time, but that he never asked to leave and wasn't given permission to do so. He said something along the lines of in hindsight he should have realized what Bergdahl was going to do, but that it didn't even cross his mind at the time because he didn't consider someone would just be walking off base.

 

[DrDoug]

I don't disagree that all political party affiliations are retarded. However, it is silly to criticize the politicians for switching sides of an issue when they find out their constituents want them to be on the other side of an issue. That's what you want them to do, regardless of their party. One of the reasons why I use the example of looking at the general population on the various "real" news site comments (ie: not the various hardcore democrat or hardcore republican sites) generally lambasting the decision is just because I think those are the places more likely to find the more "realistic" democrats and republicans. Less likely to encounter the complete 100% pure lunatics. If there is one thing that breaks through the average democrat or republican affiliation, it's fear, and that's really what people should feel when 5 dangerous radicals get traded for a guy like Bergdahl illegally in order to avoid bipartisan opposition.

All reading comments at web sites does is inform you what that 'person' thinks. Go to predominantly liberal web sites and they are supporting his return, go to predominantly conservative web sites and they are pissed at his return and want to lynch him right now. News sites? They are going to reflect their viewership and that's it. None of these sites will really tell you anything of value, they are just windsocks on the web.

While I read wide I prefer to think for myself and back my arguments/opinions up with facts, not the prevailing 'popular' opinion, to support my position.

 

[xj0hnx]

I don't know if he actually received permission but...

According to reports he had also left the base on two previous occasions and was not reprimanded for those trips. He was known to spend time among the 'friendly' Afghan forces while on his forays.

Yea, not the same thing as permission. Just walking off base, at least when I was in (and probably still is) a UCMJ actionable offense. If I had to guess there's probably a section of the base that houses locals nationals. At our FOB there was a larger base literally right across the street, and we had to organize a two vehicle convoy just to go to the PX over there.

One of the first articles that came out about this matter had an interview with the same commanding officer. The guy said that he thought the questions were odd at the time, but that he never asked to leave and wasn't given permission to do so. He said something along the lines of in hindsight he should have realized what Bergdahl was going to do, but that it didn't even cross his mind at the time because he didn't consider someone would just be walking off base.

Sounds about right.

 

[WHAMPOM]

What we have here is a lot of rumor and unsubstantiated facts. That Bergdahl was on duty at the time he went walk-about seems to be false. That he was dissatisfied with his service seems to be true. That there is a large amount of hysterical rhetoric about his release seems to be the usual conservative response.

 

[xj0hnx]

He was given permission to leave, look it up moron.

No, he wasn't. No one is going to give a US Army junior NCO permission to just go walkabout in Afghanistan by himself.

So?? who gives a fuck? He is trying to help his son transition.. jesus, you people are totally retarded and paranoid as hell. What did he say?? He said "Allah the merciful the compassionate", would it have been better if he said "God the merciful the compassionate"?? What a hypocrite you are. Your like a f**king Joseph McCarthy nut.. omg, he said Allah the merciful, he must be a terrorist!!

His speech with the president doesn't have anything to do with helping his son transition.

What we have here is a lot of rumor and unsubstantiated facts. That Bergdahl was on duty at the time he went walk-about seems to be false.

There is no "off duty" when you are deployed to a combat zone.