Politicians Delete Digital Praise of Bowe Bergdahl Release

[CitizenKain]

Glad to see the "welcome home" parade for Bergdahl was cancelled.

Yea, odds were probably good some rightwing piece of shit would open fire on the crowd.

 

[Victorian Gray]

This Rolling Stone article about Bergdahl from about two years ago is quite an interesting read.

I think there's a lot more to this story. A lot more.

It must have been planted 2 years ago because Obama knew that he would need it in 2014. It's all a commie/Islamic/fascist/Kenyan plot.

 

[sportage]

It's gets more pathetic.
Rachel Maddow has video of old john McCain supporting THIS VERY TRADE DEAL back in February 2014. The very same deal for the very same 5 guys for release of Bergdahl.
Yep. Maddow plays the video on her show Thursday night 6/5.
Sorry john... We have u on tape.
What a jerk u r Johnny M.

Back then in February the deal hit a snag and failed to go thru.
And now it went thru, and republicans play their typical games.
Reminds me of the tv show Hogan's Hero's.
I KNOW NOTHING. I SEE NOTHING.
Hoooooo Gunnnnnnn.

Republicans..... Go figure.

Let's trade the house and senate republicans for a few more American soldiers.
Kill 2 birds with one stone.
We get back our prisoners and the Talibab get our republicans.
Sounds like a win win to me.

 

[PokerGuy]

It's gets more pathetic.
Rachel Maddow has video of old john McCain supporting THIS VERY TRADE DEAL back in February 2014.

Wonderful, do you or madcow have evidence that McCain knew Bergdahl was a traitor and deserter at that point? If so, I'd agree that McCain is pulling a flip flop. Absent such evidence, it makes much more sense that he was for it when he thought Bergdahl was a good soldier, then turned against it when it became clear he's a traitor and deserter.

I'll wait for the link from you proving that McCain knew about Bergdahl being a traitor back in February.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yea, odds were probably good some rightwing piece of sh*t would open fire on the crowd.

Yeah, just like all the other times that's happened. Carry on in your delusional world though.

 

[Matt1970]

It's gets more pathetic.
Rachel Maddow has video of old john McCain supporting THIS VERY TRADE DEAL back in February 2014. The very same deal for the very same 5 guys for release of Bergdahl.
Yep. Maddow plays the video on her show Thursday night 6/5.
Sorry john... We have u on tape.
What a jerk u r Johnny M.

Back then in February the deal hit a snag and failed to go thru.
And now it went thru, and republicans play their typical games.
Reminds me of the tv show Hogan's Hero's.
I KNOW NOTHING. I SEE NOTHING.
Hoooooo Gunnnnnnn.

Republicans..... Go figure.

Let's trade the house and senate republicans for a few more American soldiers.
Kill 2 birds with one stone.
We get back our prisoners and the Talibab get our republicans.
Sounds like a win win to me.

As long as we are trading off politicians that go back on their word.....

 

[WHAMPOM]

Link to article

Congressman Stephen F. Lynch (D-MA) has joined the small but growing club of politicians who have deleted tweets initially sent in support of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s release. Rep. Lynch is the first Democrat to do so, according to deleted tweets archived on Politwoops.com, adding a bit of bipartisanship to the mix. He deleted his two tweets, which said, "Great to hear that Bo Bergdahl has been released from captivity in Afgh/Pak. Warmest regards to his family with gratitude for his/their service and sacrifice," three days after first posting them to Twitter.

At least three prominent Republicans appeared to offer praise on Twitter for the rescue of American POW Bowe Bergdahl — only to later backtrack, scrubbing their tweets or websites of any mention of the soldier after questions arose over the prisoner swap that freed him.

Republicans have widely criticized the Obama administration for swapping five high-level Taliban prisoners for Bergdahl, who many believe defected from his base because he was unhappy with the U.S. military’s actions in Afghanistan.

But before those criticisms mounted, some members of the GOP didn't hesitate to welcome Bergdahl's release with open arms.

Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE)

"A grateful nation welcomes the news of the return of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl," Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE) said in a statement that's since been removed from his website.

"I have the pleasure of regularly speaking with our nation's active duty military and veterans and I know that there is nothing more solemn than the pledge to never leave one of their own behind on the field of battle," Terry said in the statement, before calling Bergdahl "a national hero."

A tweet sent from the congressman's account still stands, calling Bergdahl's release "wonderful news." But in place of the statement on his website is this message: "We are sorry, but there is no document by that reference here."

Larry Farnsworth, Terry's communications director, tells Mashable in a statement, “We’ve heard and learned of some things that are extremely troubling in the last two days and we believed it was appropriate to take it down.”

Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV)

Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV) seemed excited when he heard the news, too.

"Best news I've heard in a long time!" the Twitter account for the Republican congressman said, including the hashtag "#standwithbowe" and a link to a USA Today story about the soldier's release.

That tweet has since been removed from his account, too, deleted after 15 hours, according to Politwoops, a website by the Sunlight Foundation that tracks deleted tweets sent by politicians.

A representative for Amodei tells Mashable, "Upon hearing the news, his spokesperson quickly posted something expressing happiness in the return of a POW, without knowing the terms of the release or consulting the congressman. When more became known, the post was taken down."

Joni Ernst, GOP Senate candidate in Iowa

Joni Ernst, the leading Republican candidate hoping to replace retiring Sen. Tom Harkin in Iowa, tweeted at 3:31 p.m. on May 31, "US Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl freed after being reported missing 5 yrs in Afghanistan. Thoughts & prayers go out to Sgt. Bergdahl & his family."

That tweet was removed after 25 minutes.

Other Republicans have been vocal in their criticism of the Obama administration's actions.

"What does this tell the terrorists? That if you capture a U.S. soldier, you can trade that soldier for five terrorists," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said on ABC's This Week, calling the prisoner swap "very disturbing."

California Rep. Buck McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said of Obama: “I think in the eyes of many, he broke the law by not informing Congress 30 days before that.” His committee will hold hearings on the prisoner swap.

Conservative media are taking it further, with the leading beacon of the right, the Drudge Report, calling Bergdahl a "rat."

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By the way they are now saying there is no real proof that any soldiers died looking for Bergdahl and that they facts will come out, and I imagine once again, the Republicans will have egg on their face again.

Ohhh and let's not forget that some weeks back McCain was all in favor of Bergdahls release see here: McCains Reversal on Bergdahls release and YouTube of the actual news footage weeks prior to of McCain saying he was all in favor of Bergdahls release CNN

The Ministry Of Truth is strong in 2014, rewriting history of assholes by assholes. The Texas' Side-step won't work in a world where "save" keeps your posting on the web forever.

 

[DrDoug]

It must have been planted 2 years ago because Obama knew that he would need it in 2014. It's all a commie/Islamic/fascist/Kenyan plot.

Yeah, that's the ticket! :biggrin:

If that story is true then it sounds like his unit had some fucked up individuals in it. Maybe that's why he didn't hang with them during downtime. He sounds like he was a pretty serious soldier surrounded by putzes. The military had dropped its recruiting requirements around then so this would not surprise me one bit. I wonder if those from his squad who are dissing him now are doing so because they know he couldn't stand them and their lack of professionalism.

I do find it interesting that the majority of people who are spitting on this guy are conservatives. I thought Democrats and hippies only spat on returning soldiers...lol! I would expect some pretty ashamed red faces if the military investigates this and finds he did nothing wrong. OK, who am I kidding... Conservatives have no shame. They will just double down and claim Obama is having the military cover up the "truth".

You can't shame ignorant, nor can you reason with it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yeah, just like all the other times that's happened. Carry on in your delusional world though.

"HAILEY, Idaho (AP) — The small Idaho hometown of released captive Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has canceled plans for a celebration later this month, citing security concerns after it was inundated with negative emails and angry phone calls."

"Hailey Chamber of Commerce President Jane Drussel said that she's received dozens of hateful emails and phone calls over the past few days, starting after she was quoted in news stories saying the town was jubilant that Bergdahl had been released. The Chamber of Commerce has also received dozens of emails and calls from detractors, many lambasting the town, Drussel and the chamber for supporting Bergdahl, calling him un-American and a traitor."

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/news/ci_25898593/bergdahls-hometown-cancels-celebration-release

"“The police chief is aware of the types of people who have threatened to come up and protest this thing,” Haemmerle said. “We’re a town of 8,000 people. The last thing we want is trouble.”"

http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...-due-to-security-concerns-20140604-story.html

 

[MongGrel]

My favorite part is that Oliver North is complaining about the US trading hostages for something that could one day kill Americans.

Oliver North.

Alanis Morissette - Ironic





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc

 

[DrDoug]

"HAILEY, Idaho (AP) — ...

"“The police chief is aware of the types of people who have threatened to come up and protest this thing,” Haemmerle said. Haemmerle said. “We’re a town of 8,000 people. The last thing we want is trouble.”"

Conservatives, he's talking about YOU. Be sure to break your arm patting yourselves on the back over this achievement.

 

[HomerJS]

Wonderful, do you or madcow have evidence that McCain knew Bergdahl was a traitor and deserter at that point? If so, I'd agree that McCain is pulling a flip flop. Absent such evidence, it makes much more sense that he was for it when he thought Bergdahl was a good soldier, then turned against it when it became clear he's a traitor and deserter.

I'll wait for the link from you proving that McCain knew about Bergdahl being a traitor back in February.

We know Bergdahl walked away from his post. Do you have any evidence he is a traitor??

Going AWOL in itself isn't necessarily traitorous. Then again why stop the usual GOP tactic of spouting off without proof.

You might consider waiting until the investigation happens.

 

[Fern]

We know Bergdahl walked away from his post. Do you have any evidence he is a traitor??

Going AWOL in itself isn't necessarily traitorous. Then again why stop the usual GOP tactic of spouting off without proof.

You might consider waiting until the investigation happens.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ologists-helping-regain-control-emotions.html

It's from Eclipse SITREP # 3023 (Eclipse is apparently a secretive defense contractor. "SITREP" means situation report.)

This is Eclipse's website: http://www.eclipse.us.com/gov_services.html

BTW: Seems quite a few (other) investigations have already been done by the Army/DoD and intelligence agencies. They are classified.

Fern

 

[OverVolt]

They only knew part of the story when posting. The tweets could stay. They are at zero fault either way just wishing someone well. The fact they had to delete them just shows what a bunch of morons the people are who follow this type of political stuff tend to be that they jump to conclusions so easily. This whole forum. Sheesh. So many morons.

 

[Zorkorist]

It seems quite obvious he is a fuck up.

But he is our fuck up.

-John

 

[mrjminer]

Conservatives, he's talking about YOU. Be sure to break your arm patting yourselves on the back over this achievement.

Or maybe he's talking about anyone with a brain who doesn't support praising a guy that seems to be an obvious traitor, since a large number of democrats are also calling bullshit on this obviously stupid trade.

They only knew part of the story when posting. The tweets could stay. They are at zero fault either way just wishing someone well. The fact they had to delete them just shows what a bunch of morons the people are who follow this type of political stuff tend to be that they jump to conclusions so easily. This whole forum. Sheesh. So many morons.

Not to mention, politicians are supposed to flip on the issues if they learn the people who they represent have a viewpoint in opposition to their own. I'm actually pretty surprised some politicians got it right for once.

 

[Thebobo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ologists-helping-regain-control-emotions.html

It's from Eclipse SITREP # 3023 (Eclipse is apparently a secretive defense contractor. "SITREP" means situation report.)
This is Eclipse's website: http://www.eclipse.us.com/gov_services.html
BTW: Seems quite a few (other) investigations have already been done by the Army/DoD and intelligence agencies. They are classified.

Fern

Contractor intelligence?

Bob Baer former CIA case officer said companies like Eclipse are worthless for intelligence in Afghanistan tonight on CNN.

Even O'reilly said this report is questionable and should wait.

Also Duance R. Clarridge is typical of who wants to play CIA these days he really wants to be somebody.

Eclipse is operated by Duance R. Clarridge, who used to be a senior operations officer for the CIA in the 1980s.

However, he is best remembered for being indicted for lying to Congress about his role in the Iran-Contra scandal. He was pardoned by President George H. Bush in December 1992, during his trial.

What a swell guy read more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/world/23clarridge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[DrDoug]

Or maybe he's talking about anyone with a brain who doesn't support praising a guy that seems to be an obvious traitor, since a large number of democrats are also calling bullshit on this obviously stupid trade.

Please point me to the lefty blogs and sites that support Democrats where they are calling bullshit on the trade. No Democratic politicians, just regular lefties who are calling bullshit on this deal.

Good luck with that. Now when it comes to right wing sites...

Not to mention, politicians are supposed to flip on the issues if they learn the people who they represent have a viewpoint in opposition to their own. I'm actually pretty surprised some politicians got it right for once.

Every time I see someone post something like this it just shows that they don't understand that our form of government is not supposed to work like a popularity contest (majority wins, the minority loses). Politicians who operate like a windsock at an airport are the worst kind of politicians to have (and about as useful). They are letting popular opinion push them into some really stupid situations. I have to laugh at the ignorance of some who have no idea how our system really works. Our House is the popularity contest (state representation on a population basis) and our Senate is the check valve (equal representation for every state) on that raucous House.

This helps to protect the minority from the Tyranny of the Majority. It ain't perfect but it's what it is. If you don't like that, take it up with John Adams.

The majority does not necessarily rule the day in America. Edumacate yourself.

 

[mrjminer]

Please point me to the lefty blogs and sites that support Democrats where they are calling bullshit on the trade. No Democratic politicians, just regular lefties who are calling bullshit on this deal.

Good luck with that. Now when it comes to right wing sites...





Every time I see someone post something like this it just shows that they don't understand that our form of government is not supposed to work like a popularity contest (majority wins, the minority loses). Politicians who operate like a windsock at an airport are the worst kind of politicians to have (and about as useful). They are letting popular opinion push them into some really stupid situations. I have to laugh at the ignorance of some who have no idea how our system really works. Our House is the popularity contest (state representation on a population basis) and our Senate is the check valve (equal representation for every state) on that raucous House.

This helps to protect the minority from the Tyranny of the Majority. It ain't perfect but it's what it is. If you don't like that, take it up with John Adams.

The majority does not necessarily rule the day in America. Edumacate yourself.

Perhaps the democrat politicians would serve as proof enough for you to understand that Obama is taking bipartisan heat on the issue. Or you could just read the various comments on about every news article about the matter where Democrats are coming out and saying that this is stupid even to them. I don't use "purely left" or "purely right" blogs as examples for anything because they are obviously biased to whichever side they are on with one-sided reports on every issue. Go to any major news site: CNN, ABC, NYT, FOX, NBC, etc. Read the comments.

And how would you deal with issues that arise during a politicians candidacy? I don't believe anyone's campaign promises or issues were "bring this traitor Bergdahl home." It's just one of those events that occurs during a politician's stint that most of the voting population didn't know about and that they have to deal with now. You would rather have politicians that ignore their constituents and just do whatever they want? Of course, this seems obvious from your laughable responses, but perhaps you should just come out and state that you want politicians that do not represent the people.

 

[Zorkorist]

Or that Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, are forever linked?

He couldn't have screwed the nation without her screwing it first.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Like Monica Lewinski, we are all fucked.

-John

 

[DrDoug]

Perhaps the democrat politicians would serve as proof enough for you to understand that Obama is taking bipartisan heat on the issue. Or you could just read the various comments on about every news article about the matter where Democrats are coming out and saying that this is stupid even to them. I don't use "purely left" or "purely right" blogs as examples for anything because they are obviously biased to whichever side they are on with one-sided reports on every issue. Go to any major news site: CNN, ABC, NYT, FOX, NBC, etc. Read the comments.

And how would you deal with issues that arise during a politicians candidacy? I don't believe anyone's campaign promises or issues were "bring this traitor Bergdahl home." It's just one of those events that occurs during a politician's stint that most of the voting population didn't know about and that they have to deal with now. You would rather have politicians that ignore their constituents and just do whatever they want? Of course, this seems obvious from your laughable responses, but perhaps you should just come out and state that you want politicians that do not represent the people.

I said no Democratic politicians for a reason, they have windsock politicians too. Lefty sites that support Democrats and their commentators who are slagging on Bergdahl. Just like right wing sites are, lets see them.

Regarding using comments at news sites to see which way an issue is running, now that is really stupid. Is that how you form your opinion about things? What about when a popular opinion is running counter to yours? Do you change your mind to agree with them?

Do you think for yourself?

 

[mrjminer]

I said no Democratic politicians for a reason, they have windsock politicians too. Lefty sites that support Democrats and their commentators who are slagging on Bergdahl. Just like right wing sites are, lets see them.

Regarding using comments at news sites to see which way an issue is running, now that is really stupid. Is that how you form your opinion about things? What about when a popular opinion is running counter to yours? Do you change your mind to agree with them?

Do you think for yourself?

Feel free to read through my various posts to see how often I take shit from everyone on every side of an argument for professing my opinion and backing it up with logic instead of blindly following party lines, which is pretty similar to dealing with a dumbass such as yourself. I am neither a democrat nor a republican. You seem to have the problem of being an idiot, and acting as though somehow going against the majority qualifies you as someone who isn't.

 

[DrDoug]

Feel free to read through my various posts to see how often I take shit from everyone on every side of an argument for professing my opinion and backing it up with logic instead of blindly following party lines, which is pretty similar to dealing with a dumbass such as yourself. I am neither a democrat nor a republican. You seem to have the problem of being an idiot, and acting as though somehow going against the majority qualifies you as someone who isn't.

I'm a registered small "i" independent, no party affiliation. No voting in primaries for either party. I weigh/smell the turd each party has chosen at election time and select the pile that weighs/stinks less. Unfortunately conservatives in our area have gone bonkers, much like the national party, and I have a feeling it is going to be some time before they stop stinking enough for me to vote for them again.

Luckily the teanuts have not been able to gain a foothold here so at least my neck of the woods is relatively sane. The head of the Republican party here wants my urine but I don't find that request unusual at all.

He's a teabagger scientist...lol!

 

[xj0hnx]

It's not it is their speculation and assumptions, no one really knows what happened. In fact Bergdahl was given permission to leave and told not to take any equipment with him.

See comments above

Link? Because that is complete and utter bullshit. No chain of command, Team, Squad, Platoon, Company, Battalion, etc ...leader(ship) is going to give a soldier permission to take off out of the FOB to go wandering around in a war zone for funnzies, just as long as he doesn't take any equipment, ...ever. That shit doesn't happen, anyone that thinks it does is fucking clueless. If, in some alternate universe this did somehow happen, or was even a misunderstanding then the US military has gone batshit crazy.