Police tasing results in braindeath for suspect

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEeF0t3jSI

Saw the video yesterday or the day before and didn't think much of it.

Looks like the girl is brain dead. Police are lazy. Instead of a short foot chase, the officer resorted to tasing and ultimately killing the girl.

In the video they said they cleared the officer of any wrong doing... However, there is legal precedent for murder cases in which during an altercation a person hits their head on the concrete and dies. This situation is only different in a worse way since she was apparently hand cuffed already and most likely not able to move at full speed to begin with.

So the donut eating cop instead of simply running 10 feet decides to end her life.

More accurate/less inflammatory thread title created.

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MomentsofSanity

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Speaking as a former cop, unnecessary. She would have been easily apprehended.

I do want to read more on the actual altercation if available.
 
Texashiker

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She was running from the cops and got tazed.

Problem?

Next time, dont run from the cops.
 
spacejamz

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Not justifying what the cop did, but if she didn't run away while handcuffed, the cop wouldn't have tazed her.
 
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Texashiker said:
She was running from the cops and got tazed.

Problem?

Next time, dont run from the cops.
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That's such an ignorant response.

The point of my post is that there is legal precedent for situations w\ things like street fights where you must realize that your actions could result in the serious injury or death of the other person. The officer is no different ESPECIALLY since her hands were cuffed and she had no way to break her fall.

Guys have been sentenced to life in prison for punching guys who then fall and hit their heads and subsequently die. This is worse because of the cuffs.

The cop is absolutely responsible for her death and should have used better judgement instead of pulling the taser on a female who was already in cuffs.
 
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PokerGuy

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airdata said:
That's such an ignorant response.
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No, it's the correct response. The legal precedent you talk about is when someone does something to someone else they are not supposed to do (like assault them, push them etc), and something worse ends up happening (person hits head, dies). This is a very different situation. The LEO has the authority to detain the person, and she is required by law to follow lawful commands.

When she decided to run, she screwed up. He was simply doing what he's supposed to do.

Moral of the story, don't break the law, and don't try to run from the police.
 
HumblePie

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Actually, she could have ended up in a coma if the cop had chased her, tripped, and ended up tackling her to the ground thus hitting her head. Same result. Just cause a taser was used here doesn't mean that was the problem, nor should it be fixated upon.

The real problem was a lazy fat ass of a cop who didn't properly keep his suspect detained in the first place. She was running while handcuffed. The cop had caught her at one point and failed to prevent her from running despite use of hand cuffs. Idiot.

But at the same time, I have a hard time feeling pity for this woman. She was the one that decided to run once cuffed. Unless it comes to light that the cop was tying to do something illegal to her, such as "cop" a feel while he had her cuffed then she has zero reason to be running.
 
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HumblePie said:
Actually, she could have ended up in a coma if the cop had chased her, tripped, and ended up tackling her to the ground thus hitting her head. Same result. Just cause a taser was used here doesn't mean that was the problem, nor should it be fixated upon.

The real problem was a lazy fat ass of a cop who didn't properly keep his suspect detained in the first place. She was running while handcuffed. The cop had caught her at one point and failed to prevent her from running despite use of hand cuffs. Idiot.

But at the same time, I have a hard time feeling pity for this woman. She was the one that decided to run once cuffed. Unless it comes to light that the cop was tying to do something illegal to her, such as "cop" a feel while he had her cuffed then she has zero reason to be running.
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fskimospy

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Cops are trained to use the minimum level of force necessary to gain compliance, it is usually a part of police regulations as well. I hardly see how this was the case here.

It is the girl's fault for attempting to flee from arrest, and the cop's fault for using excessive and unnecessary force. He is likely in violation of police regulations, and should be disciplined.
 
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eskimospy said:
the cop's fault for using excessive and unnecessary force. He is likely in violation of police regulations, and should be disciplined.
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Coming from a liberal city like new york, anything past the cop yelling "stop" is excessive force.
 
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Texashiker said:
Run from the cops, expect to get hurt.

The injuries the lady suffered are directly due to her own actions.
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You're clearly an idiot. She did not put hand cuffs on herself and tase herself while running.

She had no expectation of dying then... the cop was obviously too f'ing lazy to even tackle her.

I'd be fine had he tackled her.. however, he shot her w\ a taser and it resulted in her death. 2nd degree murder. But really, had the cop run after her there wouldn't have even been a reason to tackle her since she was cuffed and not even capable of running full speed to begin with.
 
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airdata said:
I'd be fine had he tackled her.. however, he shot her w\ a taser and it resulted in her death. 2nd degree murder.
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So if the cop tackled her and her skull cracked when it hit the ground, that would have been fine?

She put herself in a situation to be handcuffed.

She chose to run from the cop.

Like Forest Gumps mom said, stupid is as stupid does.


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You're clearly an idiot.
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I am smart enough not to run from the cops.
 
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airdata said:
The point of my post is that there is legal precedent for situations w\ things like street fights where you must realize that your actions could result in the serious injury or death of the other person.
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A street fight and a police officer attempting to detain a fleeing suspect are not the same thing, even if he used more force than absolutely necessary.
 
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http://www.baynews9.com/article/new...sing-new-video-shows-suspect-out-of-handcuffs

Maudsley was arrested for her alleged involvement in two hit-and-run crashes and driving without a license.

In the new video, Maudsley is seen in the back of Cole's cruiser after being arrested, managing to get her right hand free from handcuffs and eventually playing with her hair. At one point, it appears she tries to open the cruiser's door, but can't.
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http://www.myspace.com/xoxotrap_starxoxo
M3 and Lantana....:hmm: Yes, I know it's Lantana Dr. but....

http://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=danielle&lname=maudsley&fpartial=True
click the pic.
 
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So is the use of a taser now "police brutality"? really?
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:rolleyes: Because brutality refers to ALL circumstances in which tasers are used.

Tasers are meant to subdue those who could bring harm to those around so that the officer doesn't have to risk physical harm to themself. Someone who's already partially detained (handcuffed) does not present a huge threat, especially to someone who's trained in subduing people. He's got to have at least 150 pounds on her. He was just lazy and I think it's a clear case of excessive force for this situation. And the outcome of it causing serious injury doesn't factor into this at all.
 
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Kalvin00

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So she commits two hit and runs, then purposely slips her handcuffs and tries to escape custody (a felony)..

And why is this an issue?
 
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Obviously, tasers are not as 'non lethal' as they claim...death for running away is not the right punishment, regardless of her stupidity...
 
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