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Police Stop Man For Carrying Gun Out In Open

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
Really? What should the police have done?
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
You live in one of the most liberal states in the union and you cannot carry a gun legally in plain sight or concealed.
 

JSFLY

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Mar 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
No, your right wing bias is clouding yours. Someone calls 911 about a dude branding a gun, any officer would put him down as a safety precaution. Noone's rights were being violated here... just police officers doing their job to the best of their ability.
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
Really? What should the police have done?
That's the point, they shouldn't have done anything. They show up -> he's not terrorizing the neighborhood, waiving his gun around -> they leave.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"Pretty much any time my pants are on, I'm armed," Krause said.
I've never really understood why people feel this way...:confused:
How else would you feel like a big man?
Personally? By being a good father to my son, a good husband to my wife for starters.

Strapping a gun to your hip no more makes you a man than riding a bicycle makes you Lance Armstrong.
 

Jschmuck2

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
No, your right wing bias is clouding yours. Someone calls 911 about a dude branding a gun, any officer would put him down as a safety precaution. Noone's rights were being violated here... just police officers doing their job to the best of their ability.
Exactly. It's not a rights issue, it's a:

"Hello, 9-1-1 Emergency."

"Uh, yeah, there's this guy walking around outside and he's carrying a gun."

"...we'll send someone over."
 

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
No, your right wing bias is clouding yours. Someone calls 911 about a dude branding a gun, any officer would put him down as a safety precaution. Noone's rights were being violated here... just police officers doing their job to the best of their ability.
Carrying a gun in a holster is not "branding." Holding a gun in your hand is not "branding."
 

Jschmuck2

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"Pretty much any time my pants are on, I'm armed," Krause said.
I've never really understood why people feel this way...:confused:
How else would you feel like a big man?
Personally? By being a good father to my son, a good husband to my wife for starters.

Strapping a gun to your hip no more makes you a man than riding a bicycle makes you Lance Armstrong.
But how do those things remind you that at any moment, if you so chose, you could make something die? Is your love, in fact, so powerful that it could stop you from being burgled?
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

You live in one of the most liberal states in the union and you cannot carry a gun legally in plain sight or concealed.
Really? That is news to me. Can you site the law that says CCW permits are not legal in CA?
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Really? What should the police have done?
That's the point, they shouldn't have done anything. They show up -> he's not terrorizing the neighborhood, waiving his gun around -> they leave.
LOL
 

Jschmuck2

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
Really? What should the police have done?
That's the point, they shouldn't have done anything. They show up -> he's not terrorizing the neighborhood, waiving his gun around -> they leave.
I would love to see this thread under different circumstances. So, just to make sure I'm clear, when the police get a phone call telling that someone is walking around with a gun, they should just roll up nonchalantly and see what's what?
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Exactly. It's not a rights issue, it's a:

"Hello, 9-1-1 Emergency."

"Uh, yeah, there's this guy walking around outside and he's carrying a gun."

"...we'll send someone over."
Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about. Go to Arizona or Northern California (outside the bay area, obviously) and you will see people carrying.

Leave your little Southern California liberal puss-bubble every now and then and you will see the rest of the country does not get scared of guns the way you do.

People open-cary and concealed carry all over the country. If cops tackled every one of them because of a phone-call they would go bankrupt from litigation.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"Pretty much any time my pants are on, I'm armed," Krause said.
I've never really understood why people feel this way...:confused:
How else would you feel like a big man?
Personally? By being a good father to my son, a good husband to my wife for starters.

Strapping a gun to your hip no more makes you a man than riding a bicycle makes you Lance Armstrong.
But how do those things remind you that at any moment, if you so chose, you could make something die? Is your love, in fact, so powerful that it could stop you from being burgled?
:laugh:
 

racolvin

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Jul 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: OCguy


You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
Really? What should the police have done?
If open carry is legal and that's a known fact, then if the weapon is holstered and the person is acting peaceably you leave them the hell alone. You *MIGHT* ask them to step over for a routine felony check but that's all. You do NOT take them to the ground and cuff them, etc, etc.

If the person has the weapon in hand, acting erratic, menacing with the weapon, etc, then you take them down.
 

JSFLY

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: joshsquall
http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/19235901/detail.html

Regardless of your views on gun control and private gun ownership, isn't it a little ridiculous that police take you down first and ask questions later, for doing something that's entirely legal? This is similar to pulling you over because you're black and might have drugs.
Someone saw a guy carrying a gun, freaked out and called the police. If I were a cop and showed up to investigate a guy with a gun, you're Goddamn right he's getting on the ground until I can get everything sorted out.
You liberal tendencies are clouding your judgement.

He is exercising a constitutional right that was affirmed by a court and was harassed.

I hope he sues the absolute shit out of everyone involved.
Really? What should the police have done?
That's the point, they shouldn't have done anything. They show up -> he's not terrorizing the neighborhood, waiving his gun around -> they leave.
Brandishing then.... all better now Mr. Grammer nerd?
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

You live in one of the most liberal states in the union and you cannot carry a gun legally in plain sight or concealed.
Really? That is news to me. Can you site the law that says CCW permits are not legal in CA?
Do you have one? Good luck getting one in any of the major cities in CA...or getting a major city police department to recognize it.
 

Jschmuck2

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Exactly. It's not a rights issue, it's a:

"Hello, 9-1-1 Emergency."

"Uh, yeah, there's this guy walking around outside and he's carrying a gun."

"...we'll send someone over."
Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about. Go to Arizona or Northern California (outside the bay area, obviously) and you will see people carrying.

Leave your little Southern California liberal puss-bubble every now and then and you will see the rest of the country does not get scared of guns the way you do.

People open-cary and concealed carry all over the country. If cops tackled every one of them because of a phone-call they would go bankrupt from litigation.
Puss-bubble - that's clever. You live 45 minutes away from here in arguably an even bigger puss bubble in the City of Orange. If you want to start slinging poorly conceived, un-creative, hastily developed insults around, you're doing it in the wrong place. What exactly constitutes a puss-bubble?

Side note: How much do you absolutely hate you job/life that you come on here to be an enormous dick all the time? Is it a lot? Are you very lonely?

Side note x2: Will you leave the state soon? I hope so.

Back on topic: You're right, the police should have showed up and compared dick sizes with the guy. Because let's face it, that's what this is all about, anyhow.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Puss-bubble - that's clever. You live 45 minutes away from here in arguably an even bigger puss bubble in the City of Orange. If you want to start slinging poorly conceived, un-creative, hastily developed insults around, you're doing it in the wrong place. What exactly constitutes a puss-bubble?

Side note: How much do you absolutely hate you job/life that you come on here to be an enormous dick all the time? Is it a lot? Are you very lonely?

Side note x2: Will you leave the state soon? I hope so.

Back on topic: You're right, the police should have showed up and compared dick sizes with the guy. Because let's face it, that's what this is all about, anyhow.
Setting aside your personal insults, ill address the bolded part.


What this is really about is that you think guns are "icky", and do not believe in the Bill of Rights.

Any gun story that comes up, you will be anti-gun. So really, your opinion on this matter is irrelevant, because no matter what, you are going to side with the gun-grabbers. You have made it clear that you do not see a need for private citizens to be armed, so you are the outlier here.

What other constitutional rights are you against?


And seriously, do some traveling. Constantly being in urban settings does tend to cloud the mind of reality.

Do me a big favor. Go to AZ or NV, and call the cops because you see someone peacefully exercising thier 2nd amendment right. Make sure you are recording the call. :laugh:
 

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