Police Really Utilize Your Inability To Argue

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Pacemaker
My uncle is my hero for this stuff. He got pulled over one day for "speeding". The funny thing was is that any other day my uncle would have been, but this day he knew that he was going to be at his destination before the people who lived there so he had set the cruise control at 5 under the speed limit.

The policeman pulls him over and tells him he was speeding and that he was going to give him a warning this time. My uncle looks at him and says, "Give me the <cuss word removed> ticket." The police officer is stunned and repeats that he is giving him a warning. My uncle says, "No, I want the ticket because I want you to explain to the judge why you harassed someone who set his cruise control at 5 under the speed limit."

The police officer stood there for a second and then went to his car and drove off. Later he told me what he did was stupid, but I still find it funny.


edit: scarily enough this same uncle got pulled over because he was weaving, and when the cop opened the door he fell out of the truck (he was too drunk to even sit up). when the officer asked him, "Why did you try to drive home like this?" He replied, "Well I couldn't walk it, cause I can't even stand" This being the 70's the cop laughed and let him go (not in the car of course). If that had happened now he would have been in real trouble.

I think your uncle is a moron.
What was he going to tell the judge? "I got a ticket even though I had my cruise control set 5 mph below the speed limit". Cop: "No sir, he was speeding". I seriously doubt your uncle would have won that one, and I suspect he may have a wild imagination.

 

[ArchCenturion]

I tend to find cops to generally be an annoyance. They have a job to do and that is to investigate anything that seems out of the ordinary, or potentially threatening.

When i drove my old beat up 1975 camaro, which I drove from 2002-2006 I have been pulled over at least 11 times never the same cop. I never drink or speed. They just would pull me over for things like my one of my brake lights was out, or no front license plate. I never got a ticket, but police are always wary of males in older vehicles.

Like I said before, they are just doing their job, I do not believe that they are ever just out to get someone. They are just people too, some are nice some are complete jerks. Just try to always be civil, and honest and you should never have any problems.

 

[imported_weadjust]

When a cop ask you where are coming from?

Always reply

"I was over at your house fscking your old lady"

This is secret police code meaning I am a fellow officer and you can let me go now. Try it works every time.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: ailetlvo
This thread is pretty good; I've always wondered whether or not police have the right to search a vehicle if they pull you over.

So he needs a warrant without probable cause? What if he does have probable cause? Then can he search the vehicle? I live in CA.

no warrant needed for auto search
PC needed for search of all accessable areas of the car (with some exceptions)
cops can detain you for a REASONABLE time to call a drug dog/etc.
what is reasonable? that is why you get an attorney. it can be 10 minutes or it can be 4 hours, it is dependant on the situation.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: iron crotch

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
fyi.......08 is the state limit they can arrest for you anything over .00 if they determine you were under the influence.

Here in MA if you are under 21 you can be arrested for anything over .00, but if your legal age they cant do anything if your under the .08 limit.

ask a lawyer.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Well, you DO have power, if you choose to exercise it. It's always your decision how far you want to go. You just have to be willing to put up with the results.

I refuse sobriety tests (because I never drive after drinking). I've been asked to take them twice, both times I refused and demanded a breath or blood test. The first time it really shocked the officer and threw him off a bit. He started questioning me about all sorts of things and I think was trying to convince me to do a field test instead. I just told him, "Sorry officer, I don't drink and drive, so I won't fail a non-subjective test. I can't guarantee the same for something that you get to interpret." He finally had me blow and quickly sent me on my way. The second guy didn't even bat an eye, just grabbed a kit and got it over with, then sent me on. In my experiences dealing with law enforcment is a lot easier if you just exert your dominance at the beginning of the encounter. Once they smell fear or weakness they'll see what they can exploit.

It's the same for searches. I've been asked a few times to search the vehicle (which is a new thing, never used to come up). Every time it's just simply, "No. I don't believe you have a justifiable reason to search my vehicle. I will not consent and if you choose to act over my objections I assure you there will be legal action taken." So far they've never pressed it (though it often puts them in a bit of a bad mood). Again though, I don't ever do anything actually wrong so if they did search they wouldn't find anything and I'd be in the right. If I were actually doing something then I'd consent to the search, announce the situation, and take my lumps.

Exactly! Knowing your rights does give you the upper hand. I've done the same thing you have done. Say no to searches and do a breathilizer.

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: captains
i dont think they can "back date" your BAC. I remember hearing that they do not let you go to the bathroom or drink water while they get the test ready. Also i remember hearing on the news of a big percentage of drunks being drivin to the hospital and admited for a BAC test, then when the officer leaves the person just walks out of hospital never having the test done

Not true, there is a chain-of custody where after the lab draws the blood (usually 2 vials) one is put in an evidence box and the officer takes it to the precinct for processing. We usually keep one vial and run it at the hospital (not usable in court) to tell if we can discharge the person in their own care.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Well, you DO have power, if you choose to exercise it. It's always your decision how far you want to go. You just have to be willing to put up with the results.

I refuse sobriety tests (because I never drive after drinking). I've been asked to take them twice, both times I refused and demanded a breath or blood test. The first time it really shocked the officer and threw him off a bit. He started questioning me about all sorts of things and I think was trying to convince me to do a field test instead. I just told him, "Sorry officer, I don't drink and drive, so I won't fail a non-subjective test. I can't guarantee the same for something that you get to interpret." He finally had me blow and quickly sent me on my way. The second guy didn't even bat an eye, just grabbed a kit and got it over with, then sent me on. In my experiences dealing with law enforcment is a lot easier if you just exert your dominance at the beginning of the encounter. Once they smell fear or weakness they'll see what they can exploit.

It's the same for searches. I've been asked a few times to search the vehicle (which is a new thing, never used to come up). Every time it's just simply, "No. I don't believe you have a justifiable reason to search my vehicle. I will not consent and if you choose to act over my objections I assure you there will be legal action taken." So far they've never pressed it (though it often puts them in a bit of a bad mood). Again though, I don't ever do anything actually wrong so if they did search they wouldn't find anything and I'd be in the right. If I were actually doing something then I'd consent to the search, announce the situation, and take my lumps.

YOu must be a really sucky driver if you're being pulled over for suspected DUI all the time.

 

[Yossarian451]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: Tom
So you were speeding, and operating an vehicle that did not meet the motor vehicle code, and you had been drinking.

But you got no ticket.

what are you complaining about ?

Exactly! He's lucky the officer bought his story (or at least let him slide even if he didn't believe the twitch/ limp explanation), since no one EVER lies to the police about their drinking.

I didn't lie to cop at all, I told him I had been drinking, I was blantanly honest with everyting. I even told him exactly how much and how long I had been drinking. If he had given me a problem I could have demanded a breathalizer and would have easily been under the limit. I was not impaired and not speeding, the only violation was that ther truck had a light out over the license plate, which at most would have been a ticket for my friend who was drunk but not driving since it was his vehicle. I was legal in everything I did but he didn't cause anything more than an inconvience for me at the time, but it still was the fact that he knew I wouldn't fight it.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Yossarian451

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: Tom
So you were speeding, and operating an vehicle that did not meet the motor vehicle code, and you had been drinking.

But you got no ticket.

what are you complaining about ?

Exactly! He's lucky the officer bought his story (or at least let him slide even if he didn't believe the twitch/ limp explanation), since no one EVER lies to the police about their drinking.

... I was legal in everything I did but he didn't cause anything more than an inconvience for me at the time, but it still was the fact that he knew I wouldn't fight it.

As stated in previous replies; you don't have to blow an .08 or above to be ticketed. If the officer believes you were driving impared due to drinking, you get a ticket.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Well, you DO have power, if you choose to exercise it. It's always your decision how far you want to go. You just have to be willing to put up with the results.

I refuse sobriety tests (because I never drive after drinking). I've been asked to take them twice, both times I refused and demanded a breath or blood test. The first time it really shocked the officer and threw him off a bit. He started questioning me about all sorts of things and I think was trying to convince me to do a field test instead. I just told him, "Sorry officer, I don't drink and drive, so I won't fail a non-subjective test. I can't guarantee the same for something that you get to interpret." He finally had me blow and quickly sent me on my way. The second guy didn't even bat an eye, just grabbed a kit and got it over with, then sent me on. In my experiences dealing with law enforcment is a lot easier if you just exert your dominance at the beginning of the encounter. Once they smell fear or weakness they'll see what they can exploit.

It's the same for searches. I've been asked a few times to search the vehicle (which is a new thing, never used to come up). Every time it's just simply, "No. I don't believe you have a justifiable reason to search my vehicle. I will not consent and if you choose to act over my objections I assure you there will be legal action taken." So far they've never pressed it (though it often puts them in a bit of a bad mood). Again though, I don't ever do anything actually wrong so if they did search they wouldn't find anything and I'd be in the right. If I were actually doing something then I'd consent to the search, announce the situation, and take my lumps.

YOu must be a really sucky driver if you're being pulled over for suspected DUI all the time.

You know, I think what does it is that I'm SO cautious. I don't speed, always signal, constantly looking around, leave plenty of room, obey every obscure law, etc. I'm also out most from about 10pm to 5am. I'm sure it gives cops the willies.

And even though I'm pulled over, I've never had a ticket, and only been involved in 2 accidents which weren't in anyway my fault (in fact one was in a parking lot while I was the one parked).