Police "quotas"

EMPshockwave82

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I'm not defending how some officers act. I thinking more and more now that police officers are like most jobs in the service type industry. In many service industry jobs you have 80% of the employees that are great and 20% of the employees are crappy. The 20% are the guys you hear about all the time because they are horrible, lack judgement, or got the job to irritate someone else.

In my current job, part of it is testing our employees on safety. If they operate safely then they get a ticket written basically saying goof job, you passed test a, test b, test c, test d while a manager was watching. If they do not operate safely they get a ticket saying you passed test a, test b, and test c but failed test d. For this they get a slap on the wrist and usually the manager will talk about the rule they failed to comply with.

We have a number of tests that we have to complete each month but do not have a quota for number of failures. The thing is that you have managers over you that will go to the areas that you are in charge of and find failures. If your managers find failures but you do not then it makes you look like you are not paying attention in the area that you are responsable for.

If an officer is in charge of 100 miles of interstate it would be a safe guess that at any given time there is at least 1 rule breaker on that 100 mile streatch. If the officer goes an entire month without any tickets written it looks like he never even went to his section of territory.

Edit: Point. Give these guys a break. They are not all bad. If you have specific examples, list them.
/flamesuit on
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
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If an officer is in charge of 100 miles of interstate it would be a safe guess that at any given time there is at least 1 rule breaker on that 100 mile streatch. If the officer goes an entire month without any tickets written it looks like he never even went to his section of territory.

/flamesuit on

The troopers have to justify thier time somehow. I kow it Tennessee the state troopers get time credits for tickets and such. I think it is like 1 hour for a speeding ticket. If they respond to a wreck its two hours. If a trooper comes in from an 8 hour shift without writing any tickets what do you think the supervisor would say to him?
 

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so, how about instead of a fixed quota, simply have management document it if the officer is recording a number considerably below that which would be expected for their beat?
 

Farang

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Oops.. I said I was going to do it but I forgot.. let me finish writing that $158 ticket for riding a bicycle through a stop sign. Should help pay for that cop's Corvette that he obviously needs.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
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If an officer is in charge of 100 miles of interstate it would be a safe guess that at any given time there is at least 1 rule breaker on that 100 mile streatch. If the officer goes an entire month without any tickets written it looks like he never even went to his section of territory.

/flamesuit on

The troopers have to justify thier time somehow. I kow it Tennessee the state troopers get time credits for tickets and such. I think it is like 1 hour for a speeding ticket. If they respond to a wreck its two hours. If a trooper comes in from an 8 hour shift without writing any tickets what do you think the supervisor would say to him?

Another great point.
 

darkxshade

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It is a safe guess that at any given time, there is a criminal on that 100 mile stretch. Perhaps he should randomly shoot or arrest someone just so he doesn't look like he slacking and we should give him a break for it.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
It is a safe guess that at any given time, there is a criminal on that 100 mile stretch. Perhaps we should give him a break when he randomly shoots or arrest someone as well.

How does that actually make any sense to you? I mean how did you go about coming up with that comparison?
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: darkxshade
It is a safe guess that at any given time, there is a criminal on that 100 mile stretch. Perhaps we should give him a break when he randomly shoots or arrest someone as well.

How does that actually make any sense to you? I mean how did you go about coming up with that comparison?

edited, I was trying at sarcasm
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: darkxshade
It is a safe guess that at any given time, there is a criminal on that 100 mile stretch. Perhaps we should give him a break when he randomly shoots or arrest someone as well.

How does that actually make any sense to you? I mean how did you go about coming up with that comparison?

edited, I was trying at sarcasm

Good attempt. Without vocal inflection you have to be REALLY over the top. That actually sounds like a valid ATOT reply.

:p
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: darkxshade
It is a safe guess that at any given time, there is a criminal on that 100 mile stretch. Perhaps we should give him a break when he randomly shoots or arrest someone as well.

How does that actually make any sense to you? I mean how did you go about coming up with that comparison?

edited, I was trying at sarcasm

Good attempt. Without vocal inflection you have to be REALLY over the top. That actually sounds like a valid ATOT reply.

:p

I try :)

I have yet to perfect it as you can tell from my edit
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
I thinking more and more now that police officers are like most jobs in the service type industry.

Most service industries don't give their employees weapons, or the ability to take money from anyone that they happen to see. In addition, if your TV doesn't get fixed fast enough (or fixed incorrectly), it rarely leads to death or serious injury.

This is an invalid comparison.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
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Why do people even write this? We already separated the off topic forum into a bunch of other forums. If people start writing any type of opinion at blog.anandtech.com there won't even be a purpose for OT.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
If an officer is in charge of 100 miles of interstate it would be a safe guess that at any given time there are at least 1000 rule breakers on that 100 mile streatch. If the officer goes an entire month without any tickets written it looks like he never even went to his section of territory.

Fixed. Where are you talking about, Montana? :p

People have pet peeves, and one of this officer's pet peeves was probably assholes driving on the shoulder to bypass traffic. Once he was aware of the situation though, he should have handled it differently. Maybe another one of his pet peeves is people who use their kids as a tool to get sympathy and what have you. I know people like that, and it's pathetic. But obviously that's not what happened here, and it's unfortunate that he didn't recognize it.
 
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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
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Why do people even write this? We already separated the off topic forum into a bunch of other forums. If people start writing any type of opinion at blog.anandtech.com there won't even be a purpose for OT.


Originally posted by: theplaidfad
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:thumbsup:
 

mugs

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MattCo

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
blog.anandtech.com

Why do people even write this? We already separated the off topic forum into a bunch of other forums. If people start writing any type of opinion at blog.anandtech.com there won't even be a purpose for OT.


complaints@atot.com

http://forums.anandtech.com/logout.aspx

I thought this was forum-illegal.
 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
blog.anandtech.com

Why do people even write this? We already separated the off topic forum into a bunch of other forums. If people start writing any type of opinion at blog.anandtech.com there won't even be a purpose for OT.


complaints@atot.com

http://forums.anandtech.com/logout.aspx

I thought this was forum-illegal.

it's pretty obvious where that link takes you.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: savoyboy
Originally posted by: Farang
Oops.. I said I was going to do it but I forgot.. let me finish writing that $158 ticket for riding a bicycle through a stop sign. Should help pay for that cop's Corvette that he obviously needs.

You must live in Mexico because cops in the U.S. don't get to keep the money from tickets

One of my friends fresh out of an academy actually drives a new z06. We give him crap about it all the time about his "crooked protection deals" but its just because his family is rich and so he bought a corvette with family money.