Police investigating incident involving Tony Stewart at N.Y. dirt track

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Lifer
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:( Terrible accident. I'm not much of a NASCAR fan, but do enjoy racing in general..
 

Jumpem

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Sure he intends to race, but whether nascar will allow him to race after killing someone is another story. The amount of negative feedback nascar will get from that probably isn't worth it.

"Everything that's been made available to us at this time would not preclude (Stewart) from participating in this event here today," NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp said.

He said NASCAR has been monitoring the situation and will "honor the process and respect the timeline of the local authorities."
 

shabby

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"Everything that's been made available to us at this time would not preclude (Stewart) from participating in this event here today," NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp said.

That's to be expected from a public relations manager, but just wait till all the negative feedback starts rolling in when tony stewart is racing.
 

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Don't know who Tony Stewart is. Shows how much I care about NASCAR, which is zero to nill.

I think he does have plausible deniability on his side. The other driver should not have gotten out of his car. You wouldn't walk out into the middle of a busy road to wave your fist at drivers, so why would you do it on a race track? Not to say Stewart DIDN'T do it on purpose, or that he won't lose his job. NASCAR may feel he's too much of a liability and can him regardless of the outcome of the investigation. Especially if there's enough outrage from fans or the general public.
 

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It's very common to do exactly what Ward did, though. Most drivers have done it when they were mad at another driver. Wait for him to come back around, and let him know what you think of him as he drives by under caution.

I suspect they will now ban drivers from doing so.
 

xBiffx

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It's very common to do exactly what Ward did, though. Most drivers have done it when they were mad at another driver. Wait for him to come back around, and let him know what you think of him as he drives by under caution.

I suspect they will now ban drivers from doing so.

Stop lying. You've been told as much in the OT thread. Don't continue doing it here.

The situation here, driver immediately (on the very next lap) exiting the car and running down the track, is not common AT ALL. The only time an immediate exit happens is when there is a fire or leak of some sort that threatens the driver's safety. Even then, the driver maintains a safe track position (usually on or near the wall).

Please stop lying so much.
 

shabby

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The only time an immediate exit happens is when there is a fire or leak of some sort that threatens the driver's safety. Even then, the driver maintains a safe track position (usually on or near the wall).

You sound like a nascar official, when your taken out of a race by someone it is common to run out and try to kick/punch/leg drop the guy who side swiped you.
 

xBiffx

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You sound like a nascar official, when your taken out of a race by someone it is common to run out and try to kick/punch/leg drop the guy who side swiped you.

Not immediately following the incident its not common. An entire lap hadn't even transpired, the safety crew didn't even have time to be on site of the crash. You never see a driver do this ahead of the safety crew and stabilization of the track and recognition of the caution condition. For all they know, they could have changed the track for the worse (debris, oil) or what caused their crash could cause another so they aren't going to get out into harms way before the track condition is know especially for the entire field.
 

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Stop lying. You've been told as much in the OT thread. Don't continue doing it here.

The situation here, driver immediately (on the very next lap) exiting the car and running down the track, is not common AT ALL. The only time an immediate exit happens is when there is a fire or leak of some sort that threatens the driver's safety. Even then, the driver maintains a safe track position (usually on or near the wall).

Please stop lying so much.

Stop calling names and have a rational discussion.

I stand by what I said.

The case is being investigated, and as I already said, I doubt charges will be filed even though I think they should be.
 

shabby

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Not immediately following the incident its not common. An entire lap hadn't even transpired, the safety crew didn't even have time to be on site of the crash. You never see a driver do this ahead of the safety crew and stabilization of the track and recognition of the caution condition. For all they know, they could have changed the track for the worse (debris, oil) or what caused their crash could cause another so they aren't going to get out into harms way before the track condition is know especially for the entire field.

Again its like im reading a safety book or im being schooled on the do's and don'ts on my first day of racing. You sound so fake.
 
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xBiffx

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Stop calling names and have a rational discussion.

I stand by what I said.

The case is being investigated, and as I already said, I doubt charges will be filed even though I think they should be.

Where did I call you a name? Stop lying yet again.

You have a right to your opinion I just don't want people thinking this is common, when its in fact not.
 

xBiffx

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Again its like im reading a safety book or im being schooled on the do's and don'ts on my first day of racing. You sound so fake.

I watch a ton of racing, both on TV and at the tracks. Seen a lot of shit.
 

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Where did I call you a name? Stop lying yet again.

You have a right to your opinion I just don't want people thinking this is common, when its in fact not.

You have called me a liar at least twice.

I am relating my experiences, just as you are relating yours. You are not a liar because your opinion is different from mine...

You don't get to decide, you only get to discuss.

So stop it and discuss the topic like an adult.
 

xBiffx

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You have called me a liar at least twice.

I am relating my experiences, just as you are relating yours. You are not a liar because your opinion is different from mine...

You don't get to decide, you only get to discuss.

So stop it and discuss the topic like an adult.

I said you are lying. That is much different than calling you a liar, sorry you can't recognize that. Hint: one is specific and narrow to the topic, the other isn't.

I am being an adult. This isn't common, you haven't backed up your repeated statements that it is. Just that you are standing by them. That's pretty much acting like a child and stomping your feet.
 

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Then please explain how Stewart's car became partially sideways when he's passing the guy on the track. Stewart was driving under a yellow flag at that point so there wasn't any reason for Stewart's car to break its rear end loose other than Stewart goosing the gas when he was passing the other driver.

It's what your mind wants to see, the rest of the normal people see the car started worming when he actually hit the dude. You know, right when the camera pan back? There wasn't continuous footage of it.

And I don't know where you get the "he gunned it" part. Explain that? I heard a throttle blip, but how do YOU know it was from Tony Stewart's car?
 

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I said you are lying. That is much different than calling you a liar, sorry you can't recognize that. Hint: one is specific and narrow to the topic, the other isn't.

I am being an adult. This isn't common, you haven't backed up your repeated statements that it is. Just that you are standing by them. That's pretty much acting like a child and stomping your feet.

Opinions do not require backing up, they are only opinions.

Readers are capable of making their own decisions, you really don't need to worry much about a discussion board on the internet.

It will be okay.
 

xBiffx

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Opinions do not require backing up, they are only opinions.

Readers are capable of making their own decisions, you really don't need to worry much about a discussion board on the internet.

It will be okay.

So you are okay making statements, regardless of being able to defend them. OK. Readers can surely make their own decisions. I wonder what they are going to decide next time you make a statement given you don't seem to think they need back up.

I could care less about anything but you making it sound like this is common. I don't like seeing the spread of misinformation. And you never said anywhere that it was your opinion, until challenged.
 

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All I know is that dirt track are dark, drivers don't have great visibility and the guy was in black. Not judging the actions of Stewart directly, but this guy caused at least one other driver to swerve and he just kept down the track after that. Even if Stewart doesn't face criminal charges, I'm sure there will be a lengthy civil battle where the burden of proof is much lower.
 

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So you are okay making statements, regardless of being able to defend them. OK. Readers can surely make their own decisions. I wonder what they are going to decide next time you make a statement given you don't seem to think they need back up.

I could care less about anything but you making it sound like this is common. I don't like seeing the spread of misinformation. And you never said anywhere that it was your opinion, until challenged.

You have already challenged it...

Are readers only going to read my posts?

Anyone with access to youtube can find videos of dirt track races.

It's not unusual at all, imo. And a rule will be put in about it, imo.
 

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All I know is that dirt track are dark, drivers don't have great visibility and the guy was in black. Not judging the actions of Stewart directly, but this guy caused at least one other driver to swerve and he just kept down the track after that. Even if Stewart doesn't face criminal charges, I'm sure there will be a lengthy civil battle where the burden of proof is much lower.

I can't imagine Stewart not quickly settling with the family if it comes to that.