Police Homicides in the US

[GarfieldtheCat]

http://granta.com/violence-in-blue/

Authors look at the US police and use their statistical models to estimate the amount of police homicides, since no one really knows the true number. They have used this in other countries to estimate killings, and it works.

Their results?

8-10% of all homicides in the US are by cops.

As I said at the beginning of this article, the estimate of 1,500 police homicides per year would mean that eight to ten per cent of all American homicide victims are killed by the police

33% of victims killed by strangers are killed by cops

Of all American homicide victims killed by people they don’t know, approximately one-third of them are victims of the police.

No anecdotal information here, just real statistics. So anyone worried about being killed by a terrorist or a "lone-wolf" shooter, you should be WAY more worried about being killed by a cop. Those are less then 1% of homicides, while cops are way higher at 8-10%.

Goes to show the problem this country faces, and again shows the need for impartial reporting and investigating of all police shootings, because they have shown that they cannot be trusted to do it themselves.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

http://granta.com/violence-in-blue/

Authors look at the US police and use their statistical models to estimate the amount of police homicides, since no one really knows the true number. They have used this in other countries to estimate killings, and it works.

Their results?

8-10% of all homicides in the US are by cops.



33% of victims killed by strangers are killed by cops



No anecdotal information here, just real statistics. So anyone worried about being killed by a terrorist or a "lone-wolf" shooter, you should be WAY more worried about being killed by a cop. Those are less then 1% of homicides, while cops are way higher at 8-10%.

Goes to show the problem this country faces, and again shows the need for impartial reporting and investigating of all police shootings, because they have shown that they cannot be trusted to do it themselves.

You actually used the word impartial while making this thread? Every day people going about their lives should be terrified of random police shootings?

What a stupid post.

 

[LPCTech]

Its a totally valid post. In the USA you are far far more likely to be killed by the police than a terrorist. Because they know that if they are not on camera they will get away with it. And you are far far more likely to encounter police than terrorists.

I often wonder what kind of person wants to be a cop. Because you can say that good people become cops for good reasons, but then when their fellow cops commit crimes they quickly become accessories to the crime by their silence.

If you oppose IMPARTIAL reporting and investigating of all police shootings you must be a cop or know one.

because they have shown that they cannot be trusted to do it themselves.

Also, nice anger at the messenger, he's just posting what the link said.

Are you a cop and how many people have you killed? Or are you just some loser who wishes he could be a cop so he can go kill people?

 

[sm625]

Instead of screaming for banning guns, these dumbed down liberals should be screaming for banning cops. But oh yeah, they want more cops and less guns. Isnt indoctrination a wonderful thing?

 

[JockoJohnson]

The words used in what the OP has quoted show that the research is biased. They are calling all of the people shot and killed by police "victims". Are they victims if they were initially hostile to police or the police shooting was justified? T

here is definitely abuse by the police in this country but it doesn't help the cause by being biased in the research. There could be plenty of unbiased research that should be done to show unjustified police killings. BTW, the numbers are still staggering but let's not pretend that this is an unbiased piece of research.

 

[LPCTech]

Instead of screaming for banning guns, these dumbed down liberals should be screaming for banning cops. But oh yeah, they want more cops and less guns. Isnt indoctrination a wonderful thing?

Liberals want more police? Arent liberals the ones getting shot? Who's dumb lol.

 

[Darwin333]

You actually used the word impartial while making this thread? Every day people going about their lives should be terrified of random police shootings?

Yet every day people going about their lives should be absolutely terrified of terrorists killing them...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Yet every day people going about their lives should be absolutely terrified of terrorists killing them...

No they shouldn't. However, more people have been killed by "terrorists" (foreign and domestic) just going about their daily lives than by police and it's not even close. It's a stupid argument.

 

[DrPizza]

I don't trust estimates made by biased sources. So, I did a couple Google searches. This seemed to be around the ballpark for the majority of not-obviously-biased sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

The OP, given his posting history, is obviously biased. Hence he doesn't call into question the statistics he found which seem to favor his view.

 

[JSt0rm]

Instead of screaming for banning guns, these dumbed down liberals should be screaming for banning cops. But oh yeah, they want more cops and less guns. Isnt indoctrination a wonderful thing?

This is a compelling argument. Thank you for posting.

 

[Subyman]

I don't trust estimates made by biased sources. So, I did a couple Google searches. This seemed to be around the ballpark for the majority of not-obviously-biased sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

The OP, given his posting history, is obviously biased. Hence he doesn't call into question the statistics he found which seem to favor his view.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your link shows 1240 police homicides per year. Not very far off from the OP's numbers.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Let's see there's over 1,000,000 Police Officers in the US and there are 1,240 Police homicides a year of which we have no clue whether they were justified or not. Yet we're supposed to be believe all Police are bad.

 

[bshole]

Let's see there's over 1,000,000 Police Officers in the US and there are 1,240 Police homicides a year of which we have no clue whether they were justified or not. Yet we're supposed to be believe all Police are bad.

I wonder how many of those victims were white middle aged professionals with no criminal history. My guess would be around zero. I'm certainly not afraid of the police killing me. I am much more worried about the pricks giving me speeding tickets.

 

[LPCTech]

I wonder how many of those victims were white middle aged professionals with no criminal history. My guess would be around zero. I'm certainly not afraid of the police killing me. I am much more worried about the pricks giving me speeding tickets.

When they pull you over they get a bit of info on you from their computer. They do their best not to kill anyone they dont think they will get away with killing. Such as white people with money.
Some people arent white and have to worry about being murdered by the police. Because they think they can get away with it if you are poor, have a criminal record, or are not white. Not to mention when they kill people by mistake. Lets not forget all the pet murdering as well.

They are supposed to use their weapon to protect their lives and the lives of others. Gunning people down who are running away, killing non-dangerous pets, and killing people they think they can get away with killing for convenience is not protecting their lives and the lives of others.

And it seems police are "in fear of their own lives" very very often nowadays, perhaps they need braver less cowardly criminal and bloodthirsty cops.

Not that all cops are bad. I have met cool ones. But I have met bad ones. Even as a white person with no criminal record.

I do wanna say though that some of the recent shootings ARE in fact justified, but nowhere close to all of them.

Also its not about all cops being bad, its about the bad cops not getting punished and continuing to be bad cops.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

When they pull you over they get a bit of info on you from their computer. They do their best not to kill anyone they dont think they will get away with killing. Such as white people with money.
Some people arent white and have to worry about being murdered by the police. Because they think they can get away with it if you are poor, have a criminal record, or are not white. Not to mention when they kill people by mistake. Lets not forget all the pet murdering as well.

They are supposed to use their weapon to protect their lives and the lives of others. Gunning people down who are running away, killing non-dangerous pets, and killing people they think they can get away with killing for convenience is not protecting their lives and the lives of others.

And it seems police are "in fear of their own lives" very very often nowadays, perhaps they need braver less cowardly criminal and bloodthirsty cops.

Not that all cops are bad. I have met cool ones. But I have met bad ones. Even as a white person with no criminal record.

I do wanna say though that some of the recent shootings ARE in fact justified, but nowhere close to all of them.

Also its not about all cops being bad, its about the bad cops not getting punished and continuing to be bad cops.

There's a reason why they approach every stop or situation as a threat to their lives. It's not fear or cowardice. It's the fact that any situation can become life threatening due to the whims of the other people involved.

Example from the other day.

http://woodtv.com/2016/03/07/driver-accused-of-firing-shot-at-bc-officer-charged/

Routine traffic stop and nearly shot in the face the second he approaches the car to speak to the driver. There are countless examples of this.

 

[OutHouse]

so how many were justified for the officers or public's safety and how many were not?

 

[JSt0rm]

so how many were justified for the officers or public's safety and how many were not?

Who cares? The police dont need to report it. Let the blood flow.

 

[OutHouse]

Example from the other day.

http://woodtv.com/2016/03/07/driver-...ficer-charged/

Routine traffic stop and nearly shot in the face the second he approaches the car to speak to the driver. There are countless examples of this.

well that asshat will spend the rest of his pathetic life locked up.