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Police Dog Bites Nude Man in the Genitals

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.

(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)

I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.

(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)

I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.

You of all people are condemning the actions of the government? :Q

 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.

(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)

I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.

You of all people are condemning the actions of the government? :Q

For about the eleventy billionth time 🙂
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.

(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)

I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.

You of all people are condemning the actions of the government? :Q

For about the eleventy billionth time 🙂

Condemning the actions of the government and supporting it at the same time is an untenable position. Government is either legitimate in all of its actions or it is completely illegitimate. In other words, if this social contract theory is going to hold up, we must assume that for the contract to be valid the government must not be in violation of it. If it is, then the whole contract is void and we have no obligation to obey government at all.
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Condemning the actions of the government and supporting it at the same time is an untenable position. Government is either legitimate in all of its actions or it is completely illegitimate. In other words, if this social contract theory is going to hold up, we must assume that for the contract to be valid the government must not be in violation of it. If it is, then the whole contract is void and we have no obligation to obey government at all.

oops! fallacy of composition.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Condemning the actions of the government and supporting it at the same time is an untenable position. Government is either legitimate in all of its actions or it is completely illegitimate. In other words, if this social contract theory is going to hold up, we must assume that for the contract to be valid the government must not be in violation of it. If it is, then the whole contract is void and we have no obligation to obey government at all.

oops! fallacy of composition.

How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?

I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases. Therefore, what obligation do I or anyone else have to continue paying taxes and obeying government officials?

 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?

I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.

Sadly, this doesn't mean by any logical or other rule that I am forced to abandon support for the concept of government.

BTW: Nice threadjack 😉
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?

I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.

Sadly, this doesn't mean by any logical or other rule that I am forced to abandon support for the concept of government.

Not support for the entire concept of government (dear god, we wouldn't want to ask that much of you), but you must have some idea of what government ought to be, and it appears that you want a radically different contract drawn up.
 
Why thank you. I think exploring the larger concepts of government is more important than discussing the rather trivial incident at hand.
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Why thank you. I think exploring the larger concepts of government is more important than discussing the rather trivial incident at hand.

so start a thread 😉
 
3chordcharlie "I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts. "

K, I'll bite, it's his own fault for running around attacking police officers.
 
Originally posted by: Ivan244
3chordcharlie "I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts. "

K, I'll bite, it's his own fault for running around attacking police officers.

You didn't have to do it just for me😉
 
Already the liberals are up in arms questioning the actions of the police. You would think at some time they could get sick of their own crap.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Already the liberals are up in arms questioning the actions of the police. You would think at some time they could get sick of their own crap.

if the man was a legitimate threat, they would have shot him.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Genx87
Already the liberals are up in arms questioning the actions of the police. You would think at some time they could get sick of their own crap.

if the man was a legitimate threat, they would have shot him.

Define legitimate threat

So if the cop was getting hit by this guy the cop should have just shot him?
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Define legitimate threat

So if the cop was getting hit by this guy the cop should have just shot him?

I'm just saying they knew he was crazy, and they need to deal with crazy people more effectively.

Could be tear gas or some such remote disabling measure, could be whatever. Protecting the insane person, and the people nearby should be the priority, I can't see how dogs would have been helpful, but maybe I'm just myopic.
 
Dogs are very useful, for hunting down people, finding drugs, and crowd control. I'm sure the main reason the dog was there to find the guy and not act as a "weapon" against the guy.
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Dogs are very useful, for hunting down people, finding drugs, and crowd control. I'm sure the main reason the dog was there to find the guy and not act as a "weapon" against the guy.

I'm sure you're right, and maybe this was just a freak incident. Police are however notoriously bad at dealing with crazy people, because they equate them with the rational criminals they have to deal with on a day to day basis.
 
Wow I posted this because I thought that it was funny. It seems to have grown wings and turned into something very different.
 
That's OK, Grunt03.
3chordcharlie's points are quite valid too, IMO.
There are plenty of times that the police handle the mentally ill with compassion and great care. It is simply not newsworthy.
A co-worker told me about the police and fire departments showing up at his grandma's down the street. she had been showing the symptoms of alzhiemers, and they were in that delicate spot of trying to care for her at home, and coming to the realization that she needed 24 hour care.
When my friend asked the officer, who had been referring to his grandma by name, "how do you know her?", he replied, "we come here quite often".........
The stories of compassion and caring are not newsworthy, but if you've been there, you know.
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?

I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.

Sadly, this doesn't mean by any logical or other rule that I am forced to abandon support for the concept of government.

Not support for the entire concept of government (dear god, we wouldn't want to ask that much of you), but you must have some idea of what government ought to be, and it appears that you want a radically different contract drawn up.


actually you are wrong....it doesn't work that way...there is such a thing called part and substantial performance, which would require you to hold up your end of the bargain. Therefore, if you violate the entire portion of your side of the contract, and teh government has either paritally or substantially performed their part of the contract, you will be in what is called total breach...which basically means, your butt will sit in Jail!

Just thought I would help you out there!! 😉
 
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