Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.
(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)
I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.
(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)
I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.
You of all people are condemning the actions of the government? :Q
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually it sounds like the police don't know how to handle the mentally ill.
(juvenile)Actually it sounds like you're a sensitive wussy boy who can't take pleasure in the misery of others like the rest of us. (/juvenile)
I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts.
You of all people are condemning the actions of the government? :Q
For about the eleventy billionth time 🙂
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Condemning the actions of the government and supporting it at the same time is an untenable position. Government is either legitimate in all of its actions or it is completely illegitimate. In other words, if this social contract theory is going to hold up, we must assume that for the contract to be valid the government must not be in violation of it. If it is, then the whole contract is void and we have no obligation to obey government at all.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Condemning the actions of the government and supporting it at the same time is an untenable position. Government is either legitimate in all of its actions or it is completely illegitimate. In other words, if this social contract theory is going to hold up, we must assume that for the contract to be valid the government must not be in violation of it. If it is, then the whole contract is void and we have no obligation to obey government at all.
oops! fallacy of composition.
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?
I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?
I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.
Sadly, this doesn't mean by any logical or other rule that I am forced to abandon support for the concept of government.
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Why thank you. I think exploring the larger concepts of government is more important than discussing the rather trivial incident at hand.
Originally posted by: Ivan244
3chordcharlie "I can't wait for the 'it's his own damn fault for being insane' posts. "
K, I'll bite, it's his own fault for running around attacking police officers.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Already the liberals are up in arms questioning the actions of the police. You would think at some time they could get sick of their own crap.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Genx87
Already the liberals are up in arms questioning the actions of the police. You would think at some time they could get sick of their own crap.
if the man was a legitimate threat, they would have shot him.
Originally posted by: no0b
Define legitimate threat
So if the cop was getting hit by this guy the cop should have just shot him?
Originally posted by: no0b
Dogs are very useful, for hunting down people, finding drugs, and crowd control. I'm sure the main reason the dog was there to find the guy and not act as a "weapon" against the guy.
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Dissipate
How so? If you and I draw up a contract, but I violate the terms, what obligation do you have to hold up the other end of the bargain in any of the other areas of the contract?
I believe you have implied that you have expressed the idea that the government has indeed violated its "contract" in numerous cases.
Sadly, this doesn't mean by any logical or other rule that I am forced to abandon support for the concept of government.
Not support for the entire concept of government (dear god, we wouldn't want to ask that much of you), but you must have some idea of what government ought to be, and it appears that you want a radically different contract drawn up.