Police Authority question

[Doggiedog]

Let's say a cop catches you speeding but you are very close to the town line and make it across to the next town before he pulls you over. Does the cop have the authority to write you a ticket? Can he summon a local officer to come and give you a ticket?

Anyone have any experience with this?

 

[gigapet]

If the crime was committed in his juristiction does it matter where you finally stopped to recieve your ticket?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yes.

It is the concept of "hot pursuit"

What they cannot do is follow you into another jurisdiction and ticket you for something there.

 

[Blain]

You can run, but you can't hide. YOU'RE BUSTED!

 

[Bulk Beef]

If you make it to the city limits, you're home free.

ADVICE: FLOOR IT!!
















Disclaimer: If you get a Rodney King beatdown, don't blame me.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: sward666
If you make it to the city limits, you're home free.

ADVICE: FLOOR IT!!

right.........like the cop wouldnt be phoning a head to the next police unit that has juristiction outside the city limits. So you leave the city limits your home free then what? A FRIGGIN ROAD BLOCK. How did they know you were coming?

🙁

 

[Linflas]

Amazing how in 2003 there are still people that don't understand that radio waves (speed of light) > car.

 

[Toasthead]

yeah he can chase you as far as he wants as long as the crime was committed in his jurisdiction.

 

[bunker]

Some towns have what's called a mutual aid agreement where they can pull you over in each other's jurisdictions.

If the offense was commited in his jurisdiction, he could technically follow you across the country and pull you over.

<----Criminal Justice Degree

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Amazing how in 2003 there are still people that don't understand that radio waves (speed of light) > car.

Aha...but you have to have someone to radio ahead to in order for this principle to work.

 

[ObiDon]

Have you been watching The Dukes of Hazzard or something? 😉

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: bunker
Some towns have what's called a mutual aid agreement where they can pull you over in each other's jurisdictions.

If the offense was commited in his jurisdiction, he could technically follow you across the country and pull you over.

<----Criminal Justice Degree

I recall reading once that cops from State A (let's say California) can't follow you over the border into State B (let's say Nevada). They would have to radio ahead to the cops in State B, since they're technically out of their jurisdiction if they cross the state line.

How does an example like that work in real life? Are they allowed to continue pursuit or do they really have to hand it off to the cops in the state they entered? Do they get to arrest them and take them back to State A, or do they have to let State B arrest them, lock them up, and arrange for extradition first?

 

[bunker]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: bunker
Some towns have what's called a mutual aid agreement where they can pull you over in each other's jurisdictions.

If the offense was commited in his jurisdiction, he could technically follow you across the country and pull you over.

<----Criminal Justice Degree

I recall reading once that cops from State A (let's say California) can't follow you over the border into State B (let's say Nevada). They would have to radio ahead to the cops in State B, since they're technically out of their jurisdiction if they cross the state line.

How does an example like that work in real life? Are they allowed to continue pursuit or do they really have to hand it off to the cops in the state they entered? Do they get to arrest them and take them back to State A, or do they have to let State B arrest them, lock them up, and arrange for extradition first?

Depends on the state's policy. Federal law allows them to continue pursuit.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: bunker

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: bunker
Some towns have what's called a mutual aid agreement where they can pull you over in each other's jurisdictions.

If the offense was commited in his jurisdiction, he could technically follow you across the country and pull you over.

<----Criminal Justice Degree

I recall reading once that cops from State A (let's say California) can't follow you over the border into State B (let's say Nevada). They would have to radio ahead to the cops in State B, since they're technically out of their jurisdiction if they cross the state line.

How does an example like that work in real life? Are they allowed to continue pursuit or do they really have to hand it off to the cops in the state they entered? Do they get to arrest them and take them back to State A, or do they have to let State B arrest them, lock them up, and arrange for extradition first?

Depends on the state's policy. Federal law allows them to continue pursuit.

Ahhhh....I see. So technically, wouldn't federal law supersede state in that case, or would that only be if they were pursuing someone for a "federal" offense or if the pursuing cops were FBI?

 

[Ime]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Let's say a cop catches you speeding but you are very close to the town line and make it across to the next town before he pulls you over. Does the cop have the authority to write you a ticket? Can he summon a local officer to come and give you a ticket?

Anyone have any experience with this?

I can see it now:

Some guy with a laptop and wireless internet connection gets pulled over by a cop under the above circumstances. He tells the cop "Hold on just a second, I'm getting legal advice from ATOT!".

😛

 

[crazycatb]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Amazing how in 2003 there are still people that don't understand that radio waves (speed of light) > car.

it's funny because radio waves don't travel at the speed of light... but yes they do travel much faster than cars 😛

 

[crazycatb]

also, they don't have to have another cop there to ticket your or anything, they just have to radio into the base station and get authorization, which 99% of the time is given, unless it is across country borders (which i'm sure your not talking about).

 

[bunker]

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Ahhhh....I see. So technically, wouldn't federal law supersede state in that case, or would that only be if they were pursuing someone for a "federal" offense or if the pursuing cops were FBI?

I'm not talking about state law, state policy...there's a big difference.

If the state has a policy of not allowing pursuits to continue outside of it's borders, then that officer had better call the next state well before they get to the line if he would like to continue his employment 😉.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: crazycatb

Originally posted by: Linflas
Amazing how in 2003 there are still people that don't understand that radio waves (speed of light) > car.

it's funny because radio waves don't travel at the speed of light... but yes they do travel much faster than cars 😛

Someone needs to alert others to this then because a quick search of "speed of radio waves" comes up with a ton of hits all saying that radio waves travel at the speed of light which is what I recall from my electronics days. Here is one from NASA Goddard Space Flight Center.

 

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Let's say a cop catches you speeding but you are very close to the town line and make it across to the next town before he pulls you over. Does the cop have the authority to write you a ticket? Can he summon a local officer to come and give you a ticket?

Anyone have any experience with this?

Police, for the most part, are certified for their state. Meaning go ahead and cross city limits, they will still follow.

What bunker is saying is partly correct. They can follow across state lines, but only if both states have a mutual aid agreement.
As soon as they cross state lines, they have commited a federal crime. The cops in state B (the state you ran to) can still arrest you and extradite back to your original state.

 

Originally posted by: bunker

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: bunker
Some towns have what's called a mutual aid agreement where they can pull you over in each other's jurisdictions.

If the offense was commited in his jurisdiction, he could technically follow you across the country and pull you over.

<----Criminal Justice Degree

I recall reading once that cops from State A (let's say California) can't follow you over the border into State B (let's say Nevada). They would have to radio ahead to the cops in State B, since they're technically out of their jurisdiction if they cross the state line.

How does an example like that work in real life? Are they allowed to continue pursuit or do they really have to hand it off to the cops in the state they entered? Do they get to arrest them and take them back to State A, or do they have to let State B arrest them, lock them up, and arrange for extradition first?

Depends on the state's policy. Federal law allows them to continue pursuit.

Which federal law? I can go back and correct a professor 🙂

BTW, not trying to be a smartass, id just like to know for my future reference as well.

 

[Encryptic]

Cool, thanks for the info. Just like to know in case I ever have to flee from one state to another. 😉

 

[Ylen13]

I was taught by professor that if the offence is felony then they can cross county line not sure if it?s the same for state line but if it?s some minor offence then they can't. From reading the threads it seems that what I was told is wrong. Btw I am talking about California State