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jktam

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hey guys,
just picked up the Police 25th anniversary SACD. it's a great SACD and CD also. it's a hybrid. the SACD contains the multichannel as well as the 2channel tracks. and at $11.99 it's a great deal i think.

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JuryDuty

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To hear the SACD version--will this work in a DVD player with DD 5.1 surround sound, or do you need a special player?
 
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nanahachi02

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to take advantage of the SACD encoding you will need a SACD player (some/most of the newer SACD players also play DVD video and regular CDs).


However, as stated, since the album is a hybrid, that means it has both regular CD and SACD encoding, so you can play it on a CD/DVD player for the normal CD format.
 
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sxr7171

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Now here's a sweet deal. Thanks!


Jury Duty: You can try using a DVP-ns755v, scd-222es or an older SCD-ce775, or DVP-NC650V. Other offerings come from Marantz, Pioneer, Onkyo, and Yamaha.
 
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Odeen

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Keep in mind that SACD = better than CD quality (CD's are 44.1khz/16-bit, SACD's are 2.8MEGAHERTZ/1bit). The technology is different - the sample resolution is just one bit, but temporal resolution is incredible compared to anything else. Also, the DAC design is actually simpler, so you don't need to hack the signal with a bunch of filters.

Whereas DTS and DD are both LOSSY formats. Sure, you get 5.1, but the bitrate is at best equivalent to CD audio, so it IS compressed to make it six-channel instead of two.

DVD-Audio and SACD discs typically have a 5.1 mix (Some SACD's are 4.0), and both are mastered with no, or lossless compression (MLP in case of DVD-Audio).

DVD-Audio is, at best, 192khz/24bit stereo or 96khz/24bit 5.1


Basically:
DTS Audio CD = neat toy
DVD-A and/or SACD, high-quality player, high-quality receiver (or, better yet, separate digital processor, pre-amp and power amp(s)), plus high quality speakers = pure audio nirvana

P.S. - Costco has the first four Police albums in the 25th anniversary remaster packaging at $7.99 apiece. :)
 
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sxr7171

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Originally posted by: Odeen
Keep in mind that SACD = better than CD quality (CD's are 44.1khz/16-bit, SACD's are 2.8MEGAHERTZ/1bit). The technology is different - the sample resolution is just one bit, but temporal resolution is incredible compared to anything else. Also, the DAC design is actually simpler, so you don't need to hack the signal with a bunch of filters. Whereas DTS and DD are both LOSSY formats. Sure, you get 5.1, but the bitrate is at best equivalent to CD audio, so it IS compressed to make it six-channel instead of two. DVD-Audio and SACD discs typically have a 5.1 mix (Some SACD's are 4.0), and both are mastered with no, or lossless compression (MLP in case of DVD-Audio). DVD-Audio is, at best, 192khz/24bit stereo or 96khz/24bit 5.1 Basically: DTS Audio CD = neat toy DVD-A and/or SACD, high-quality player, high-quality receiver (or, better yet, separate digital processor, pre-amp and power amp(s)), plus high quality speakers = pure audio nirvana P.S. - Costco has the first four Police albums in the 25th anniversary remaster packaging at $7.99 apiece. :)
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Wow! That was a very accurate explanation. It's pretty rare to see those about Hi-Rez audio. What are you listening on?
 
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Originally posted by: Odeen
Keep in mind that SACD = better than CD quality (CD's are 44.1khz/16-bit, SACD's are 2.8MEGAHERTZ/1bit). The technology is different - the sample resolution is just one bit, but temporal resolution is incredible compared to anything else. Also, the DAC design is actually simpler, so you don't need to hack the signal with a bunch of filters. Whereas DTS and DD are both LOSSY formats. Sure, you get 5.1, but the bitrate is at best equivalent to CD audio, so it IS compressed to make it six-channel instead of two. DVD-Audio and SACD discs typically have a 5.1 mix (Some SACD's are 4.0), and both are mastered with no, or lossless compression (MLP in case of DVD-Audio). DVD-Audio is, at best, 192khz/24bit stereo or 96khz/24bit 5.1 Basically: DTS Audio CD = neat toy DVD-A and/or SACD, high-quality player, high-quality receiver (or, better yet, separate digital processor, pre-amp and power amp(s)), plus high quality speakers = pure audio nirvana P.S. - Costco has the first four Police albums in the 25th anniversary remaster packaging at $7.99 apiece. :)
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Wow Odeen - $7.99 is a great price. Almost worth a thread on their own! Just picked them up. Shame they don't have Synchronicity yet!
 
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Originally posted by: OdeenWhereas DTS and DD are both LOSSY formats. Sure, you get 5.1, but the bitrate is at best equivalent to CD audio, so it IS compressed to make it six-channel instead of two.

DVD-Audio and SACD discs typically have a 5.1 mix (Some SACD's are 4.0), and both are mastered with no, or lossless compression (MLP in case of DVD-Audio).

DVD-Audio is, at best, 192khz/24bit stereo or 96khz/24bit 5.1
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Isn't the definition of "lossless" compression a sampling rate of infinity?

2822400 is high, but its still compression.
 
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sxr7171

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Originally posted by: Bink
If you need a great SACD player, the Sony NS755V is only $209.95 at B&H Photo BHPhotoVideo.com
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Now that's a hot deal! Sony has really improved its CD playback on all the units that have SACD capability. I guess they had to use better circuitry in the analog stages of their SACD players to make sure SACD sounds excellent on all players. They have succeeded in making players that sound much better than other CD players in their price categories and even a couple of price categories above where they sit when playing regular CDs. When playing an SACD, they can really sound better than very expensive CD players.


Edplayer,

We are not talking about sampling rate as a form of compression of a theoretically infinitely varying analog signal, but the compression that is applied to the digital signal after it is captured. DTS takes whatever sampling rate the material was recorded in (24/96 or 24/48 aong a few others) and actually does what MP3 compression does - drops bits that it thinks you won't be able to hear. Both DVD-A and SACD compress the data like a .zip file where no data is lost but it just becomes smaller so more music can be stored on the disc in higher quality with mulitple channels. Both formats use DVD physical disc media BTW.
 
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superblast

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The remaining Police SACDs are on sale at circuitcity.com for $12.99 each ($24.99 for the double "Live" album). Free shipping too. I'm pretty sure only the "Best of" SACD is multichannel and CD player compatible though. The rest of them are two channel only (in case that matters to you). Oh, and they're also on backorder.
 
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