Pointless necro (therefore closed) New NYC apartment - hole in door, no deadbolt?

[KnickNut3]

My roommate got the keys to our new apartment today, complete with a large hole in the front door with no lock, telling us we can buy a new one and install it ourselves or he can "get us a good deal."

Now, it would seem to me that delivering an apartment with a large hole in the front door and little to no security is against the law and not right, but the management company and super claim otherwise.

Is this common practice in NYC and/or elsewhere (this is our first apartment, we don't know), or are they trying to put one over on us? Thanks.

Necros with pertinent updates are allowed. Necros with no substance are locked. -Admin DrPizza

 

[Savij]

1. Take pictures
2. Buy a lock and install it
3. Don't give landlord the key
4. Tell all future tenents how you had to buy your own lock when they look at your place later
5. Take the lock with you when you move

It's probably illegal to not provide a deadbolt, but I'm not an expert.

 

[ViviTheMage]

itll be nice to not have your super come in when he pleases

 

[mundane]

..

 

[loup garou]

Yes, this is common practice.

 

[iamwiz82]

That's why I bought the Clasco D-29. It is the most indestructable lock on the market.It's only design flaw is that The door,MUST BE CLOSED

 

[hiromizu]

That's NYC for ya. I recently moved out of the city to Queens but I'm not sure if I like it. All landlords are the same except for my last one. She was sweet.

 

[Dessert Tears]

Originally posted by: KnickNut3
My roommate got the keys to our new apartment today, complete with a large hole in the front door with no lock, telling us we can buy a new one and install it ourselves or he can "get us a good deal."

Leaving the hole open is a little odd - it's easy and inexpensive to plug. It's not uncommon for the tenant to supply his own secondary lock.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
That's why I bought the Clasco D-29. It is the most indestructable lock on the market.It's only design flaw is that The door,MUST BE CLOSED

:laugh:

POLICEMAN: I see...Well, mister Seinfeld uh, we'll look into it and uh, we'll let you know if we uh, you know, if we find anything.

JERRY: You ever find anything?

POLICEMAN: No.

 

[orakle]

Buy a deadbolt and don't give the landlord the key. They're not that expensive.

 

[Gooberlx2]

INDIVIDUAL LOCKS, PEEPHOLES AND MAIL

Tenants in multiple dwellings can install and maintain their own locks on their apartment entrance doors in addition to the lock supplied by the landlord. The lock may be no more than three inches in circumference, and tenants must provide their landlord with a duplicate key upon request.

The landlord must provide a peephole in the entrance door of each apartment. Landlords of multiple dwellings in New York City must also install a chain-door guard on the entrance door to each apartment, so as to permit partial opening of the door. (Multiple Dwelling Law §51-c; NYC Admin. Code §27-2043)

United States Postal regulations require landlords of buildings containing three or more apartments to provide secure mail boxes for each apartment unless the management has arranged to distribute the mail to each apartment. Landlords must keep the mail boxes and locks in good repair.

from here

"in addition to the lock supplied by the landlord"...this is the part that seems a gray area. I'm not sure if that means that the landlord is required to provide a lock or not.

This part might scare them into installing one though:

CRIME PREVENTION

Landlords are required to take minimal precautions to protect against foreseeable criminal harm. For example, tenants who are victims of crimes in their building or apartment, and who are able to prove that the criminal was an intruder and took advantage of the fact that the entrance to the building was negligently maintained by the landlord, may be able to recover damages from the landlord.

 

[loup garou]

whoa, wait. I thought you meant that there was a lock, but no deadbolt....OP, are you saying there's no lock at all? That's fucked up. Common practice (in non-doorman, non-luxury, lo-rise building) is to provide a regular lock and tenant provides a deadbolt.

 

[LegendKiller]

It's his place, he has to foot the bill. Read the renters bill of rights for NYC. Personally, I'd buy the door, lock, and deduct it from your rent. If he bitches tell him to take it to court.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: mundane
This should fit the bill quite nicely.

:thumbsup:

 

[nanette1985]

Originally posted by: hiromizu
That's NYC for ya. I recently moved out of the city to Queens but I'm not sure if I like it. All landlords are the same except for my last one. She was sweet.

Queens is in NYC.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: princess ida

Originally posted by: hiromizu
That's NYC for ya. I recently moved out of the city to Queens but I'm not sure if I like it. All landlords are the same except for my last one. She was sweet.

Queens is in NYC.

"The city" is synonymous with Manhattan for many New Yorkers.

 

[Vonkhan]

"The city" refers spec. to Manhattan

NYC is Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx and Staten Island

 

[KnickNut3]

Are we really debating this?

Thanks for the law quotations et al.

 

[Schmide]

You're doing it wrong. It's a feature called a glory hole.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Locks install easily with a screwdriver. Just research ones that are tough to break and give a relative and or friend a backup key....

You may want to consider changing to a reverse peephole while you're at it.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8exxJhSEIk

 

[Grooveriding]

You're doing it wrong. It's a feature called a glory hole.

 

[Ns1]

whatthefucknecro

 

[amdhunter]

Yes, this is common practice.

Yep.

 

[CraKaJaX]

welcome to new york. bend over.

edit: 2007. dammit Schmide.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Welcome to NYC

And I'm sorry to hear.....not about the door/hole either.