Poem Form a local guy to protesters

Wheezer

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I got an email from a friend of mine and this was apparently published in my local paper.

I haven't been able to locate it in past issues but this poem was sent to a local woman whose son is in Iraq.

She forwarded it to the paper to be published, it was written by him and his platoon.

I have no way to authenticate it because I have not seen it yet in the paper but it is still a very good poem no matter who the author is.


"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome.

We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud, but who will fight for you?

No one standing in your crowd.

We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.

We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is cast in stone.

We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world,
Well, at least we try.

We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.

So when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.

In order for that flag you love to fly,
wars must be fought and young men must die.

We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.

So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.

When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go though hell.

Cpl. Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait
 

KDOG

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Thats good. I'm printing it now, so I can hang it on the bulletin board at work so the hippies can see it...
 

Bowfinger

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One little problem with this. Most protestors are protesting the war, NOT the troops. To claim otherwise is dishonest, yet it is the tactic used by Bush & Co. over and over. You support us, or you support terrorism. You support us, or you support Saddam. You support us, or you're against the troops. Black and white, you're with me or you're evil. He can't tolerate being questioned, so he uses every dirty trick in the book to discredit his opponents - kind of like his campaign tactics, come to think of it.

I support the troops 100%, but I don't support the reason they were shipped into battle. As the signs said: "Support our Troops - Bring Them Home".
 

tec699

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Hmmm..

Who will protect you? Tell that to my father who lost a whole squad in the Korean war. Ahd oh yea.. he opposes the war. He fought for me and for YOU! He fought for everyone here, but yet they want to try and make him look bad because he doesn't agree with Bush? it's quite disquisting if you ask me. The great thing about America is if you don't agree you can protest peacefully. That's a privilage my father and past father's have fought for.

We should ask President Bush about his war stories. Yea... thought so. :disgust:
 

Wheezer

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Thank your father for me...seriously he has my respect.

And I can see war verterans disagreeing with the war, hell my GF gradfather who was in France to free those ungrateful bastages does not agree with the war.

But let me ask, what political affiliation is your father?


You see my g/f grandfather is a die hard Democrat. He made his feelings quite clear. For him it is not neccessarily the fact that he is against war, but more of the fact that he hates Bush. As we talked about things prior to the war everything in the conversation led away from the topic of the war and onto things like how Bush was not a legitimate president, and how he was bad for this country.

When I tried to get him to discuss the war efforts he diverted the conversation.

BTW the highlited part is not directed to your father or anyone else who has served in the military who might disagree with the war. I am sure that if you could talk to the authors you will find that it is more directed at people who have never served, who protest because they hate the administration, who had no idea of what that regime did to the people of Iraq.

They go out and "play" dead, and block traffic, and exercise violence to show thier "freedom of speech" I would be willing to bet that your father is the minority. 98% of the people protesting the war are more than happy go out and show what a great country we have by using the freedom of speech, but as the poem states probably not a one of them would defend that freedom.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: tec699
Hmmm..

Who will protect you? Tell that to my father who lost a whole squad in the Korean war. Ahd oh yea.. he opposes the war. He fought for me and for YOU! He fought for everyone here, but yet they want to try and make him look bad because he doesn't agree with Bush? it's quite disquisting if you ask me. The great thing about America is if you don't agree you can protest peacefully. That's a privilage my father and past father's have fought for.

We should ask President Bush about his war stories. Yea... thought so. :disgust:

Nice.

 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
I got an email from a friend of mine and this was apparently published in my local paper.

I haven't been able to locate it in past issues but this poem was sent to a local woman whose son is in Iraq.

She forwarded it to the paper to be published, it was written by him and his platoon.

I have no way to authenticate it because I have not seen it yet in the paper but it is still a very good poem no matter who the author is.


"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome.

We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud, but who will fight for you?

No one standing in your crowd.

We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.

We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is cast in stone.

We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world,
Well, at least we try.

We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.

So when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.

In order for that flag you love to fly,
wars must be fought and young men must die.

We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.

So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.

When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go though hell.

Cpl. Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait

Is there any situation where you would disagree with the US invading another country? Or would you accept any military action no matter what?

 

sMiLeYz

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I dont support this war... So i must be a unpatriotic saddam loving hippie liberal. Pleaaaasssseee...

I wont have a problem with the war if Bush actually presented justification for the war in the correct way. First he said it was about the link between Al-Qaeda, then it was about WMD's, next it was about Iraq's UN violations, then it was about liberating the people of Iraq's. Every time Bush spit this bs, conservatives ate it up... while the people with sense (the rest of the world) wondering "WTF IS WITH THIS GUY?"

Of course I support the troops, but not the war, and certainly not our president.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Thank your father for me...seriously he has my respect.

And I can see war verterans disagreeing with the war, hell my GF gradfather who was in France to free those ungrateful bastages does not agree with the war.

But let me ask, what political affiliation is your father?


You see my g/f grandfather is a die hard Democrat. He made his feelings quite clear. For him it is not neccessarily the fact that he is against war, but more of the fact that he hates Bush. As we talked about things prior to the war everything in the conversation led away from the topic of the war and onto things like how Bush was not a legitimate president, and how he was bad for this country.

When I tried to get him to discuss the war efforts he diverted the conversation.

BTW the highlited part is not directed to your father or anyone else who has served in the military who might disagree with the war. I am sure that if you could talk to the authors you will find that it is more directed at people who have never served, who protest because they hate the administration, who had no idea of what that regime did to the people of Iraq.

They go out and "play" dead, and block traffic, and exercise violence to show thier "freedom of speech" I would be willing to bet that your father is the minority. 98% of the people protesting the war are more than happy go out and show what a great country we have by using the freedom of speech, but as the poem states probably not a one of them would defend that freedom.

My wife's grandpa was in the Korean war and he is against this war too. But I will say his actions mirror those of your gf's Gpa Wheezer. He is a DIE-HARD Democrat. We talked(or rather didn't) about the merits of this war last weekend but all of his statements were aimed at the evil Bush. I let it go and just chalked it up to him still being bitter about the election of 2000.

CkG
 

orion7144

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If it weren't for Democrats there would be nothing to complain about (Just Kidding. That outa set some people off). Everyone I talk to that is a Democrat still thinks Bush was not the winner in FL. They can't get over the fact that it has been proven by all of the studies of the ballets, that he won the majority of votes in FL. They should just get over it since he will have a 2nd term anyway.







 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: orion7144
If it weren't for Democrats there would be nothing to complain about (Just Kidding. That outa set some people off). Everyone I talk to that is a Democrat still thinks Bush was not the winner in FL. They can't get over the fact that it has been proven by all of the studies of the ballets, that he won the majority of votes in FL. They should just get over it since he will have a 2nd term anyway.


I wonder why people freekin' expect people just to get over it! Jefferson/Adams and Hayes/Tilden are probably still argued in some circles. Get over it :) :p the race will be argued for as long as the US of A exists.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: orion7144
If it weren't for Democrats there would be nothing to complain about (Just Kidding. That outa set some people off). Everyone I talk to that is a Democrat still thinks Bush was not the winner in FL. They can't get over the fact that it has been proven by all of the studies of the ballets, that he won the majority of votes in FL. They should just get over it since he will have a 2nd term anyway.

Did you post this in the wrong thread or something? I don't see any realtion between the crap you wrote and the sunject of the thread. Too many drinks tonight perhaps?

 

tec699

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Thank your father for me...seriously he has my respect.

And I can see war verterans disagreeing with the war, hell my GF gradfather who was in France to free those ungrateful bastages does not agree with the war.

But let me ask, what political affiliation is your father?


You see my g/f grandfather is a die hard Democrat. He made his feelings quite clear. For him it is not neccessarily the fact that he is against war, but more of the fact that he hates Bush. As we talked about things prior to the war everything in the conversation led away from the topic of the war and onto things like how Bush was not a legitimate president, and how he was bad for this country.

When I tried to get him to discuss the war efforts he diverted the conversation.

BTW the highlited part is not directed to your father or anyone else who has served in the military who might disagree with the war. I am sure that if you could talk to the authors you will find that it is more directed at people who have never served, who protest because they hate the administration, who had no idea of what that regime did to the people of Iraq.

They go out and "play" dead, and block traffic, and exercise violence to show thier "freedom of speech" I would be willing to bet that your father is the minority. 98% of the people protesting the war are more than happy go out and show what a great country we have by using the freedom of speech, but as the poem states probably not a one of them would defend that freedom.


First.. thanks for the nice comment. My father served in the military because he loves his country. :D

I agree 100% with your statement. For the peace protesters it's not about the war but about Bush's politics. They don't like Bush. And my father is for peaceful protest, but he is disguisted with the war protesters that cause havoc. He feels that if you want to protest a war do it peacefully. Also.. if America is engaged in the conflict, then the war protesters should step back because the troops need our support - 100%! My father is actually a Republican but he does vote Democrat from time to time.

The reason my father disagrees with the war is because he has seen first hand how brutal it can be. He was there when his best buddy bleed to death right in front of him. He still has nightmares about the Korean war. He does not agree with Saddam Hussein at all, but feels that Bush could have waited a bit longer because world support is so critical. He feels that war should be the last alternative.

Oh.. and please don't lump all French citizens as being weak pansies. My mother is a French citizen and eventhough she doesn't agree with the war she knows that Saddam is an evil person and should be dealt with accordingly. She was quite dismayed at Chirac's ignorance over the Iraqi crisis.

In fact.. most Americans don't know this, but when Germany occupied France during WW2, the French citizens would hide the Jews from the Gestapo. My mom's sister remember's nights when the Gestapo would barge into French houses searching for Jews. It got to be pretty scary at times.

Finally.. has anyone seen the Musilm population in France? They have grown at a alarmingly rate. If I'm not mistaken, a third of France's population is Muslim. People don't realize that France could be on the receiving end of a Muslim uprising if the Iraqi war would have gone horribly wrong.
 

foofoo

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We should ask President Bush about his war stories. Yea... thought so.

well, to be fair, you didnt serve in war and neither did bush jr. but both of your dads did. and as i recall, bush senior did his part and more in ww2. and he seems to support his sons war here. this isnt particularly to say i agree with bush jr. which i actually dont. but your comment was a bit disingenuous.
some of my relatives served in ww2 and korea and vietnam, others were put into japanese internment camps during the war. but i havent been in the military so i dont think that it's that fair to disparage anothers lack of military experience.