Pocket Legends: 30-50% more revenue on Android than on iPhone

[akugami]

Computer World article link

Interesting piece of news. I think this bodes well for gaming on Android devices. The main thing is releasing a quality product of course. I've heard of Pocket Legends but never played it.

I don't mean to be negative but is this a case of there lacking quality games on Android so the few that do show up may do better than the iOS version? I mean, with the iTunes store, you got plenty to choose from. Games that are more graphically stunning like Infinity Blade, Rage, GTI Racing to more simplistic games Tap Defense (tower defense game). You've even got ports of some PC and console games like Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana, and Civilization.

 

[cheezy321]

Good stuff.

Android users clicking ads 3x as much as Apple users? Damn, thats huge.

 

[purbeast0]

as a dev on both platforms, i can say that i've had about 3x - 4x more sales on iOS than Android for the same app.

 

[zerocool84]

Good stuff.

Android users clicking ads 3x as much as Apple users? Damn, thats huge.

and it begins

 

[runawayprisoner]

Computer World article link

Interesting piece of news. I think this bodes well for gaming on Android devices. The main thing is releasing a quality product of course. I've heard of Pocket Legends but never played it.

I don't mean to be negative but is this a case of there lacking quality games on Android so the few that do show up may do better than the iOS version? I mean, with the iTunes store, you got plenty to choose from. Games that are more graphically stunning like Infinity Blade, Rage, GTI Racing to more simplistic games Tap Defense (tower defense game). You've even got ports of some PC and console games like Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana, and Civilization.

No, that's true. It's just a sad fact that Android gets no gaming love at all, and that most Android users have to resort to sad multiplayer 3D game that almost no iOS user cares about to justify gaming on their devices. Note that Pocket Legends doesn't run on just about any device, so you're practically looking at a group of high-end devices depraved of their gaming capabilities.

Thought that was bad enough? Some publishers are refusing to let their titles into the Marketplace, risking a significant amount of profits for games they... spent time created!

Some can't comprehend it, but it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to see that the Android Marketplace is up to its neck in useless soundboards, widgets, variations of the same widget that... already came default with the OS, wallpapers, themes, poor scams, beta softwares, racist and religious apps, and even malwares. Saying Google neglected to clean the Marketplace up is a gross understatement. And that doesn't make it a safer environment for anyone to start putting their blood and sweat in.

Imagine someone searching for your game only to find that the top search result is an app that displays swimsuit photos.

 

[Glitchny]

No, that's true. It's just a sad fact that Android gets no gaming love at all, and that most Android users have to resort to sad multiplayer 3D game that almost no iOS user cares about to justify gaming on their devices. Note that Pocket Legends doesn't run on just about any device, so you're practically looking at a group of high-end devices depraved of their gaming capabilities.

I really doubt they are playing the game because it is the only thing our there. And where did the "sad multiplayer" tag come from? Game seems pretty popular, is multiplayer somehow bad now?

Thought that was bad enough? Some publishers are refusing to let their titles into the Marketplace, risking a significant amount of profits for games they... spent time created!

Some can't comprehend it, but it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to see that the Android Marketplace is up to its neck in useless soundboards, widgets, variations of the same widget that... already came default with the OS, wallpapers, themes, poor scams, beta softwares, racist and religious apps, and even malwares. Saying Google neglected to clean the Marketplace up is a gross understatement. And that doesn't make it a safer environment for anyone to start putting their blood and sweat in.

Imagine someone searching for your game only to find that the top search result is an app that displays swimsuit photos.

How about we post recent articles that reflect the state of the Android Market today, like the OP, and not articles from almost a year ago which SPECULATE that the games are being held out of the market due to some Apple - Gameloft conspiracy. :sneaky:

 

[Phokus]

How about we post recent articles that reflect the state of the Android Market today, like the OP, and not articles from almost a year ago which SPECULATE that the games are being held out of the market due to some Apple - Gameloft conspiracy. :sneaky:

That is pretty funny how he didn't even read his own article.

 

[runawayprisoner]

How about you just check on your Android phone and see if there is any Gameloft title on the Market? That should resound what has been stated from a year ago. If there was any change, there would already be an article praising the "progress". As it is, Gameloft still refuses to release their titles into the Market.

Also, play the game yourself and see for yourself how it is sad. Barely okay graphics. A couple of maps, three classes to choose from, and just a number of skills. Plus level cap. There is nothing engaging or fun about this game. Some people (I bet more than I can imagine) would call this fun, but if you'd consider what you get from your PC or say... other devices, this is pretty poor, and sad.

 

[Glitchny]

How about you just check on your Android phone and see if there is any Gameloft title on the Market? That should resound what has been stated from a year ago. If there was any change, there would already be an article praising the "progress". As it is, Gameloft still refuses to release their titles into the Market.

Also, play the game yourself and see for yourself how it is sad. Barely okay graphics. A couple of maps, three classes to choose from, and just a number of skills. Plus level cap. There is nothing engaging or fun about this game. Some people (I bet more than I can imagine) would call this fun, but if you'd consider what you get from your PC or say... other devices, this is pretty poor, and sad.

All of these things are opinion, glad you speak for all the gamers out there.

Gameloft still has Asphalt on there! I don't really care if they don't put their stuff in the market, it only hurts them. If people want a game that is also on iPhone they can get it directly from Gameloft and deal with the horrible system if they want.

Considering that since that article (July) more and more games and apps have been released and Android has grown a ton I don't think Gameloft holding out is hurting anyone except Gameloft.

With the new Tegra Zone games coming I don't really see gaming on Android being a problem issue. Sure not all hardware can run these games, but not all PC's can run Crysis, and that's fine. Some people want a smartphone and don't care about games, they can get a cheaper phone with weaker hardware and those that want games can buy the phones with better hardware.

Developers will still continue to make games for Android as the platform has an incredible upside. Also with support like this $100 Million fund for indie game development on Android I don't see anyone worrying about Games on Android.

 

[cheezy321]

and it begins

Hopefully it continues at that pace. Google does have a lot of ground to gain before they are even close to the revenues that the iOS store is producing.

 

[runawayprisoner]

All of these things are opinion, glad you speak for all the gamers out there.

Gameloft still has Asphalt on there! I don't really care if they don't put their stuff in the market, it only hurts them. If people want a game that is also on iPhone they can get it directly from Gameloft and deal with the horrible system if they want.

Considering that since that article (July) more and more games and apps have been released and Android has grown a ton I don't think Gameloft holding out is hurting anyone except Gameloft.

With the new Tegra Zone games coming I don't really see gaming on Android being a problem issue. Sure not all hardware can run these games, but not all PC's can run Crysis, and that's fine. Some people want a smartphone and don't care about games, they can get a cheaper phone with weaker hardware and those that want games can buy the phones with better hardware.

Developers will still continue to make games for Android as the platform has an incredible upside. Also with support like this $100 Million fund for indie game development on Android I don't see anyone worrying about Games on Android.

Gameloft not releasing their titles obviously hurts them financially, that much is certain. But what does that imply regarding their choice to resist the Android Market?

I'm merely using the opportunity to echo a sentiment that should have been a long while ago, and in the wake of recent malwares, it's all the more appropriate.

This is not a jab at Android's poor gaming selection, and just as a note, Tegra Zone doesn't have as many titles as it's promising:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-zone.html

It practically scales itself down to these titles:
Backbreaker
Dungeon Defenders
Fruit Ninja
Galaxy On Fire 2
Monster Madness
Samurai II Vengeance
Vendetta Online
Hardwood Solitaire IV
Hardwood Spades

Not to mention 3 of those are already available on the Market. It doesn't look any more promising than it did when EA presented their Need For Speed game on many devices before, or when they announced Angry Birds for Android. Or even when they pushed Fruit Ninja into the Market.

You don't see anyone worrying about games on Android because, truthfully, I don't even care about gaming on Android myself. I am content with using my phone to make calls and send texts. In fact, the gaming selection wasn't even the issue I wanted to discuss, though just because no one complains about it doesn't mean it's totally perfect as it is.

 

[theeedude]

Hopefully it continues at that pace. Google does have a lot of ground to gain before they are even close to the revenues that the iOS store is producing.

That's for GOOG shareholders to worry about. For end user, it's not about Google's revenues.

 

[cheezy321]

That's for GOOG shareholders to worry about. For end user, it's not about Google's revenues.

How many times does this need to be explained to you?

Do you see Wal-Marts in bumfuck Egypt on every street corner? No. Do you see them on every corner in America? Yes. Do you understand why they are everywhere in America? Because people spend money in them (and lots of it)! The American economy is healthy enough for you to be able to go out in every major city in the US and buy whatever you need, basically 24 hours a day. This isn't true in poorer towns and countries.

It is a good thing to have people spend money in order for there to be healthy development going on in an economy. This is true for any economy. In this case, I am referring to the app economy, whether is it on iOS or android.

Seriously, is this point lost on you or something? I don't get how you cant understand this simple concept.

 

[abaez]

I don't think your situation applies. "Spending money" with Android equates to users clicking on a free app, meaning no money spent by them. That gets Google and the devs money, not the user spending money to buy the app.

 

[JD50]

How many times does this need to be explained to you?

Do you see Wal-Marts in bumfuck Egypt on every street corner? No. Do you see them on every corner in America? Yes. Do you understand why they are everywhere in America? Because people spend money in them (and lots of it)! The American economy is healthy enough for you to be able to go out in every major city in the US and buy whatever you need, basically 24 hours a day. This isn't true in poorer towns and countries.

It is a good thing to have people spend money in order for there to be healthy development going on in an economy. This is true for any economy. In this case, I am referring to the app economy, whether is it on iOS or android.

Seriously, is this point lost on you or something? I don't get how you cant understand this simple concept.

Hey, remember when you said this, "Are FOSS systems being used by the majority of the computer using world? No, its not even close." and then bailed on the thread? Yea that was pretty funny.

Edit - I'm not trying to be a dick and bring up an old argument, but you're still failing to understand the different business models that the two companies have and you're trying to call someone else out about it.

 

[JD50]

Computer World article link

Interesting piece of news. I think this bodes well for gaming on Android devices. The main thing is releasing a quality product of course. I've heard of Pocket Legends but never played it.

I don't mean to be negative but is this a case of there lacking quality games on Android so the few that do show up may do better than the iOS version? I mean, with the iTunes store, you got plenty to choose from. Games that are more graphically stunning like Infinity Blade, Rage, GTI Racing to more simplistic games Tap Defense (tower defense game). You've even got ports of some PC and console games like Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana, and Civilization.

Yes, I think that's your answer, unfortunately.

 

[cheezy321]

Hey, remember when you said this, "Are FOSS systems being used by the majority of the computer using world? No, its not even close." and then bailed on the thread? Yea that was pretty funny.

Edit - I'm not trying to be a dick and bring up an old argument, but you're still failing to understand the different business models that the two companies have and you're trying to call someone else out about it.

We weren't getting anywhere on that convo. It was going to go in circles, what would be the point of responding. Just cuz FOSS is being used by the backend of most systems doesn't mean everyone even knows (or cares) that they are being used. The majority of them are pulling out their wallets and using paid OS's and paid programs. What OS are you viewing this website on right now? There is a 95% probability that if you are on a desktop or laptop it is a paid OS.

You can act like it doesn't matter all you want, but it does matter. That's a fact. Yes, yes I know, different business models. The bottom line in biznass is making that scrilla.

 

[QueBert]

Yes, I think that's your answer, unfortunately.

I 2nd this, before I sold my iPhone I had bought about 30 games, many of them I could pick up and play at least once a week. On my Droid there are so few games worth playing, even for free with the exception of a couple I don't even bother. Android might get there, but it won't be anytime soon.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I 2nd this, before I sold my iPhone I had bought about 30 games, many of them I could pick up and play at least once a week. On my Droid there are so few games worth playing, even for free with the exception of a couple I don't even bother. Android might get there, but it won't be anytime soon.

3rded. Just spent 20 min on my iPod touch during bathroom break

 

[QueBert]

3rded. Just spent 20 min on my iPod touch during bathroom break

Since I sold mine, my productivity has gone waaaay up. If iOS had some sort of time spend in app tracker. I bet it would have said I wasted like 30 hours playing GI Joyride alone lol. 5-10 minutes here and there in random games really adds up. I use to spend about 2 hours total a day playing games on it.

 

[theeedude]

Most of the apps are a waste of time and money. Even if they are good, they are a waste of time. Some people just want the important apps that help them in real life, GPS, calendar, mail, VPN, VNC, Pandora, full featured web browser, etc. Both platforms have no shortage of those. The remainder are time wasters, don't really care if iOS has 1000000 of those and Android has 1000, just like I don't care for PC games.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Most of the apps are a waste of time and money. Even if they are good, they are a waste of time. Some people just want the important apps that help them in real life, GPS, calendar, mail, VPN, VNC, Pandora, full featured web browser, etc. Both platforms have no shortage of those. The remainder are time wasters, don't really care if iOS has 1000000 of those and Android has 1000, just like I don't care for PC games.

Is Beejive as good on Android as it is on iPhone? Same with IM+? There's productivity useful apps out there on iPhone that can't be matched yet like ConvertBot for instance. I've been waiting for a while for a decent unit converter on Android.

 

[finbarqs]

begun, the clone war has!

 

[JD50]

We weren't getting anywhere on that convo. It was going to go in circles, what would be the point of responding. Just cuz FOSS is being used by the backend of most systems doesn't mean everyone even knows (or cares) that they are being used. The majority of them are pulling out their wallets and using paid OS's and paid programs. What OS are you viewing this website on right now? There is a 95% probability that if you are on a desktop or laptop it is a paid OS.

You can act like it doesn't matter all you want, but it does matter. That's a fact. Yes, yes I know, different business models. The bottom line in biznass is making that scrilla.

That's quite the backpedal from your original statement. Yes, I completely understand that the bottom line in business is making money, my entire point is that when dealing with FOSS products you have use a different business model, so it's inaccurate to single out the app market and claim that iOS is more successful than Android (or whatever argument it is that you're trying to make) Apple makes more on app sales.

And since you asked, when I made that post I was at work on a RHEL 5 desktop using Firefox. Now I'm at home and I'm posting on my Fedora 14 desktop using Firefox. All free. But do you really want to go there? You do realize that Firefox and Chrome, both FOSS browsers, kick the shit out of IE, a propriety closed source browser, don't you?

I don't disagree that Windows rules the desktops, but who really cares about desktops anymore?

 

[theeedude]

Is Beejive as good on Android as it is on iPhone? Same with IM+? There's productivity useful apps out there on iPhone that can't be matched yet like ConvertBot for instance. I've been waiting for a while for a decent unit converter on Android.

Try google search. You can just type what you want to convert to what and it does it for you. Why would you want to waste money and space on your device for this? Or pay $10 for an IM app for that matter? Seriously, if this is all you could scrape up, that pretty much makes my point.