I've bought spindles of both PNY and Kingston cds...Actually, I bought several spindles of PNY cds, generally in the $10-20 range. The last set of PNY cds I bought seemed cheap as hell, really really light green bottom, practically see-through, and the entire spindle made a crunching sound when I pressed the top down (minor rant, but hey.) The kingstons are really nice, and considering you get $15 for 50 air-shipped to your door the next day, it's a better deal, imo. I burn at 6x anyways, so 12x is useless for me (hence I save a buck and get 50 cds for $14.) One obvious benefit the kingston cds have is that they don't have the ugly "NeEd MeMoRy?!?!?!?!?!?!" logo printed all over the surface, with barely any space to write.