PMI 1024 DC DDR400LL ram, has anyone tried it?

[Lyfer]

Its only $219 at SVC.com and is RATED at 2-3-2-6. The higher latency 2-3-3-7 version is only $179 for 1GB of PC3200. This stuff is cheap, ANand just reviewed the PC4200 stuff, they said its good but no headroom.


THoughts?


I've got my RAM choices down to:

OCZ PC3500 performance 1GB-$220
OCZ PC3200LL 1GB- $231
PMI PC3200LL GOLD 1GB-$219
PMI PC3200 GOLD 1GB-$179
Mushkin BlueLine PC3200 1gb-$204

I plan on using a Barton-M 2600, so I ruled out all PC3700, now I've just got to decide between these five of DC ram.


Thoughts?

 

[Soulkeeper]

well, when compared to those other options i would say it is worth a try
the 2-3-2-6 timings are good and the prices isn't that bad, but i dunno how far it will OC

anyone know what chips this stuff uses ??
that could help us get a better understanding of just what this memory might be able to do


good luck

 

[drewdogg808]

how about mushkin pc3200 2-2-2 special? $243 for 1 gig at newegg.
i've also heard some decent things about kreton ram, pc3500 rated 2,3,3,7 for $92.50/512mb at newegg also.
overclockers forums has a few threads on kreton.

just to throw a few more into your mix.

 

[wicktron]

These PMI's are most likely Winbond CH-5 chips. The Mushkin Specials use Winbond BH-6 chips.

 

[myocardia]

Assuming you want to be happy with your ram that now costs as much as the rest of the system put together, get either the Mushkin 2-2-2 if you can afford it, or the OCZ. OCZ is as good as XMS and HyperX, if you ask me.

edit: I wouldn't buy the Mushkin unless your motherboard supports giving >2.8v on vdimm, but if it does, get the Mushkin.

 

[Corporate Thug]

PMI review

another excellent review

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: shady06
PMI review

another excellent review

Thanx!

 

[Corporate Thug]

glad i can help

 

[bunnyfubbles]

yeah, I need some good ram as well (and am too spoiled to go with anything less than 1GB (well I'd definately like more than 512, but 2 x 512 works well for dual channel )

 

[Jeff7181]

I'm content with my Mushkin PC3500 Level 1... running 218 Mhz @ 2-3-3 on 2.6 volts... (I run it 2-3-3-11 cause I have an nForce2 chipset, but Mushkin doesn't advertise that specification because I think they're trying to say it doesn't matter since a setting of 11 provides the best performance on an nForce2 board, and anything higher than 8 on an Intel board would supposedly "close the book in your face" as they explain it on the website)

 

[Dulanic]

Newegg has 1GB kit of Mushkin Special Edition which is PC3200 rated at 2-2-2 for $234 AWSOME deal as a 512MB stick alone from mushkin is $181 - $18 for 10% discount.

 

[Acanthus]

considering those timings make less than a 1% difference in performance, id go with the cheapest stuff you could find.

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
considering those timings make less than a 1% difference in performance, id go with the cheapest stuff you could find.

Timings or not... their very very good at overclocking also. It uses BH6 chips which OC very very well. And the fact its as cheap as RAM with lower timings right now helps a bit.

 

[Soulkeeper]

you can't put a percentage on performance gained from timings
but i would say runing 2-2-2-6 is much more than 1% when compared to 3-3-3-8 in nearly everything
some things could see as much as 10% gain in performance just from that move
just depends on what you run
faster timings never hurt performance

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper


anyone know what chips this stuff uses ??
that could help us get a better understanding of just what this memory might be able to do

Uses Winbond CH-5 chips. I thought CH-5 was great for overclocking but sucked for tight timings?

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper


anyone know what chips this stuff uses ??
that could help us get a better understanding of just what this memory might be able to do

Uses Winbond CH-5 chips. I thought CH-5 was great for overclocking but sucked for tight timings?

I already said it uses CH-5. CH-5 is decent, but doesn't scale well at tight timings & higher voltages. Since most/all BH-5 is gone, the next best solution for tight timings are BH-6. BH-6 will scale VERY high, sometimes higher than even BH-5, but it requires more volts. Most BH-6 can do approximately 250 @ 2-2-2-6 with about 3.3v. I recently built a system using Kingston ValueRAM PC2700, and the moduels used BH-6, so that might be a cheap way to get BH-6, although YMMV. :beer:

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: wicktron

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper


anyone know what chips this stuff uses ??
that could help us get a better understanding of just what this memory might be able to do

Uses Winbond CH-5 chips. I thought CH-5 was great for overclocking but sucked for tight timings?

I already said it uses CH-5. CH-5 is decent, but doesn't scale well at tight timings & higher voltages. Since most/all BH-5 is gone, the next best solution for tight timings are BH-6. BH-6 will scale VERY high, sometimes higher than even BH-5, but it requires more volts. Most BH-6 can do approximately 250 @ 2-2-2-6 with about 3.3v. I recently built a system using Kingston ValueRAM PC2700, and the moduels used BH-6, so that might be a cheap way to get BH-6, although YMMV. :beer:

I'm not a gambling man, I don't plan going over 220MHZ, just want to hit 2.5ghz+ at some decent timings. 2.5-3-3-7 is perfectly fine for me as long its not 3-4-4-8 as alot of the cheap PC3700 are rated at.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: wicktron

Originally posted by: Lyfer

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper


anyone know what chips this stuff uses ??
that could help us get a better understanding of just what this memory might be able to do

Uses Winbond CH-5 chips. I thought CH-5 was great for overclocking but sucked for tight timings?

I already said it uses CH-5. CH-5 is decent, but doesn't scale well at tight timings & higher voltages. Since most/all BH-5 is gone, the next best solution for tight timings are BH-6. BH-6 will scale VERY high, sometimes higher than even BH-5, but it requires more volts. Most BH-6 can do approximately 250 @ 2-2-2-6 with about 3.3v. I recently built a system using Kingston ValueRAM PC2700, and the moduels used BH-6, so that might be a cheap way to get BH-6, although YMMV. :beer:

I'm not a gambling man, I don't plan going over 220MHZ, just want to hit 2.5ghz+ at some decent timings. 2.5-3-3-7 is perfectly fine for me as long its not 3-4-4-8 as alot of the cheap PC3700 are rated at.

Booooooo
That's not extreme!!! :disgust:

Hehe, jk. All good, almost any CH-5 will do that for you. :beer:

 

[Soulkeeper]

even with my bh-6 chips i still don't like pushing the voltage above 3v
just something about it seems like too much