Plenty of trouble afoot in Iraq

conjur

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http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_s...le_east_full_story.asp?service_id=7088
A senior Iraqi Interior Ministry official was kidnapped Wednesday in southern Baghdad by a group of unidentified gunmen, police said.

The official, Colonel Riyadh Katei Aliwi, worked in the ministry's operations department, the ministry said.


Anti-government rebels have intensified their attacks targeting Iraqi forces and government officials over the past month, killing and kidnapping many of them.

Also scores of foreigners have been kidnapped in Iraqi over the past year, including a female French journalist and a female Italian journalist, both seized last month.

Meanwhile, unidentified gunmen killed Wednesday a correspondent for a U.S.-funded Arabic television station in southern Iraqi city of Basra, police have said.

Abdul-Hussein Khazal, Al-Hurra correspondent was killed, when a group of gunmen attacked hi his house in Basra and shot him dead.


Al-Hurra, an Arabic-language satellite station based in the state of Virginia, was set up by the U.S. in 2004 to compete with other Arabic Satellite channels like Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya.


Insurgent Violence Kills 40 in Iraq
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2005/feb/10/021005856.html
A car bomb detonated by remote control exploded Thursday in Baghdad, killing two Iraqis but missing a U.S. military convoy as insurgent violence claimed more than 40 lives. Clashes between Iraqi police and rebels erupted along a major highway southeast of the capital.

With violence on the rise after the Jan. 30 election, Iraqi officials announced they would seal the country's borders for five days this month around a major Shiite religious holiday. Last year during the holiday, about 180 people were killed in suicide attacks at Shiite shrines.

The car bomb detonated on Tahrir Square in the heart of Baghdad, shattering the vehicle and setting several other cars on fire. At least two Iraqis were killed and two others were wounded, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. James Hutton said.

An American military patrol had just passed through the area but there were no U.S. casualties, Hutton said.

Most of the violence Thursday targeted Iraq's security forces, part of an apparent insurgent campaign to undermine public confidence after police and soldiers managed to prevent catastrophic attacks during the elections.

The biggest attack occurred in Salman Pak, 12 miles southeast of Baghdad, when insurgents attacked Iraqi policemen who came to look for weapons, showering them with machine-gun fire, rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds, police said.

Seven Iraqi police were killed in the two-hour gunbattle and eight were wounded, U.S. officials said. American troops evacuated some of the wounded, the U.S. command said, and residents said American helicopters were prowling the skies.


"We were on patrol to search for weapons," wounded policeman Waad Jassim said from his hospital bed. "When we arrived, they opened heavy fire at us. There were many of them, and some were charging out of houses."

Elsewhere, bodies of 20 Iraqi truck drivers who had been shot were found dumped on a road, their hands bound behind their backs, police Capt. Ahmed Ismail said. Some of the trucks were owned by the government, Ismail said.

Gunmen fired on an Iraqi police patrol Thursday in Baqouba, north of Baghdad, triggering a gunbattle that killed a civilian and wounded two police officers, officials said. Assailants also killed a police lieutenant in Baqouba.

Five bodies in Iraqi National Guard uniforms were found Thursday in the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad. Hospital director Ala al Ani said residents reported that the slain men were among 13 guardsmen who went missing recently. Two insurgents were killed Thursday in clashes with U.S. forces north of Ramadi, residents and hospital officials said.

A strong explosion shook the Rahmaniyah neighborhood of western Baghdad late Thursday, and residents said the blast occurred near a small Shiite mosque. Witnesses said there were casualties but police had no report.


A videotape obtained Thursday by Associated Press Television News showed gunmen killing four blindfolded men who identified themselves as Iraqi policemen. The video showed the four young men sitting cross-legged on the floor of a room. A date stamp on the video indicated it was recorded Feb. 3.

Several gunmen with assault rifles standing just steps away from the captives fired repeatedly at the men one by one, shooting them in the back of their heads.

Elsewhere, a body was found riddled with bullets in Mosul, and in the northern oil center of Kirkuk, a roadside bomb exploded several minutes after a U.S. military patrol passed, killing one Iraqi, police said. In Baghdad, gunmen shot to death a hospital receptionist.

Election officials had expected to release final results Thursday from the vote for a National Assembly, provincial councils and a regional parliament for the autonomous Kurdish north. On Wednesday, however, election commission spokesman Farid Ayar said the deadline would not be met because ballots in about 300 boxes had to be recounted.

"We don't know when this will finish," Ayar said. "This will lead to a little postponement in announcing the results."
They sure are stepping things up and going after varying types of people (hospital receptionist?)

Damn.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Is that website the same as AlJazeera.net?
What is this .com website?
http://www.aljazeera.com/about.asp
About Aljazeera.com
Aljazeera Publishing owns and operates Aljazeera.com, bringing you the world today. Aljazeera Publishing is an independent media organisation established for more than 12 years delivering news and analysis to readers all over the world. Aljazeera.com has a particular focus on events and issues in the Middle East covering major developments presenting facts as they happen.

It came up in a Google search.
 

ntdz

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I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.

Iraq ~26 million people.

USA ~ 300 million people.

I wonder how many of those murdered in the USA are dead due to the unprovoked invasion of a militarily superior foreign power?

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.

Yeah good job in ALWAYS reporting the negative news out of Iraq. I bet you people aren't really concerned with the violence in Iraq as you are to make Bush look bad. Its not working, in fact the Americans are turned off by this much negativity.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.

Well...depending on your politics you could count the number of Native Americans who have died since the invasion... (just playing devils advocate) :evil:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.

Yeah good job in ALWAYS reporting the negative news out of Iraq. I bet you people aren't really concerned with the violence in Iraq as you are to make Bush look bad. Its not working, in fact the Americans are turned off by this much negativity.
The thinking Americans are turned off by the arrogance and insensitivity of the Bush admin.

We're more concerned with domestic issues, true homeland security, facing the huge national debt, fairness in and independent media, raising our kids, getting an education and a job.

The sheep are more concerned with apologizing for and defending an administration that pays fake journalists (with a history of running gay prostitution businesses) to view sensitive White House memos that actually breach national security.
 

conjur

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Insurgents Attack Bakery, Mosque in Iraq
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...e=2&u=/ap/20050211/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A car bomb exploded outside a Shiite mosque northeast of Baghdad on Friday, killing at least 12 people and injuring dozens, a police official and witnesses said, while masked men sprayed gunfire into a crowd at a bakery in a mostly Shiite neighborhood in the capital, killing 11 people, police said.

The violence came as Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made a surprise visit and said Iraqis, not Americans, must defeat the country's insurgency.


The bombing in Balad Ruz, 45 miles northeast of Baghdad, occurred as mosque services ended, killing 13 people and wounding 40, police Col. Tahseen Mohammed.

Residents reported that a pickup truck loaded with vegetables and parked in front of the mosque looked suspicious, Mohammed said. When Iraqi troops approached the truck, it exploded, he added.

But Brig. Adel Moulan, the regional head of the Iraqi National Guard, reported only 12 killed and 23 wounded. He said the pickup exploded as a guard patrol passed by and at the same time the mosque was letting out.

The bakery attack in the New Baghdad area occurred after gunmen in several cars blocked the street in front of the shop with their vehicles and entered the shop. They fired on the workers, killing 11 people, an Iraqi police investigator said.

Although the motive was unclear, the attack was the latest in a series of violent incidents since the Jan. 30 national elections, raising questions whether the landmark balloting will lead quickly to stability in this fractured country.

On Thursday, insurgents ambushed Iraqi police who came to an area about 10 miles southeast of Baghdad to search for weapons. The Interior Ministry said 14 policemen were killed, 65 were wounded and six were missing after the two-hour gunbattle. Four insurgents also died in the fighting, the ministry said.

Final election results have not been released, but partial figures indicate Shiite Muslims linked to the powerful clergy will have the largest number of seats in the 275-member National Assembly. Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's ticket was running third behind a Kurdish alliance.

Iraqi officials said Friday they need only a few days at most to complete counting the ballots. Officials had expected to announce a final tally by Thursday but later said the process had been delayed because of the need to recount votes from about 300 ballot boxes.

"The counting is in the very final stages," said Abdul-Hussein Hendawi, the head of the election commission. "There are almost 3 percent of the ballots remaining for the National Assembly that are still being counted ? only a few days maximum."

Elsewhere, an aide to Iraq (news - web sites)'s most revered Shiite Muslim cleric was injured in an assassination attempt in Baghdad after receiving threats from militants opposing his support for Iraq's elections, the man's relative said Friday.

Sheik Ammar al-Hilali, a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, was shot seven times by gunmen in two cars as he left sunset prayers at a mosque Tuesday, said the relative, Ali al-Lafta.

The relative said al-Hilali had received many threats from Sunni Arab extremists.

Al-Sistani himself was a strong backer of the vote and even declared voting a religious duty for every man and woman, contributing to a huge turnout among Shiites, who comprise about 60 percent of Iraq's estimated 26 million people.

However, many Sunni Arabs, estimated at 20 percent of the population, apparently stayed away from the polls, either out of fear of insurgent attacks or in support of a boycott call by their clergy.

During Friday prayers at a mosque in a Sunni district of Baghdad, the preacher urged Iraqis to unite to "push out the enemy" ? meaning the Americans ? "by any legitimate means."

Rumsfeld flew to the tense northern city of Mosul to meet with commanders and troops before traveling to Baghdad. In his address at the Mosul airfield, Rumsfeld told American troops: "You have shown that America is in fact a land of liberators, not a land of occupiers."

But, he added: "It is the Iraqis who have to over time defeat the insurgency."

Rumsfeld is the most senior U.S. official to visit Iraq since the elections. Rumsfeld's spokesman Larry di Rita said the purpose of the trip was "to recognize the great success of the elections."

As American officials speak of the need for Iraqis to shoulder more responsibility for battling the insurgents, the rebels have been stepping up their attacks against Iraqi police and soldiers, hoping to undermine their morale and the public's confidence in their capabilities.

More than 50 people have been killed since late Wednesday in insurgency-related violence, and many of the victims were from the security services.

Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told The Associated Press his country will keep soldiers in Iraq at least through the end of this year, when the U.N. mandate for foreign troops' presence expires.

Poland has more than 2,400 troops in the multinational force, which is based in central Iraq, south of Baghdad. It is reducing its presence to about 1,700 troops this month in a move announced last year.

"There is a decision by the president that Polish soldiers will be there until Dec. 31, 2005: up to 1,700 soldiers plus additional 700 troops on standby in Poland, and that's how it will be," Szmajdzinski said by telephone from France, where he is attending a NATO (news - web sites) meeting.
What was that AlLIEwi said? Terrorism was defeated? Hmmm...odd looking defeat.


And, btw, how long does it take to count votes from 300 ballot boxes? Are they just buying time to force some US puppet into the gov't?
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: conjur
Insurgents Attack Bakery, Mosque in Iraq
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...e=2&u=/ap/20050211/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A car bomb exploded outside a Shiite mosque northeast of Baghdad on Friday, killing at least 12 people and injuring dozens, a police official and witnesses said, while masked men sprayed gunfire into a crowd at a bakery in a mostly Shiite neighborhood in the capital, killing 11 people, police said.

The violence came as Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made a surprise visit and said Iraqis, not Americans, must defeat the country's insurgency.


The bombing in Balad Ruz, 45 miles northeast of Baghdad, occurred as mosque services ended, killing 13 people and wounding 40, police Col. Tahseen Mohammed.

Residents reported that a pickup truck loaded with vegetables and parked in front of the mosque looked suspicious, Mohammed said. When Iraqi troops approached the truck, it exploded, he added.

But Brig. Adel Moulan, the regional head of the Iraqi National Guard, reported only 12 killed and 23 wounded. He said the pickup exploded as a guard patrol passed by and at the same time the mosque was letting out.

The bakery attack in the New Baghdad area occurred after gunmen in several cars blocked the street in front of the shop with their vehicles and entered the shop. They fired on the workers, killing 11 people, an Iraqi police investigator said.

Although the motive was unclear, the attack was the latest in a series of violent incidents since the Jan. 30 national elections, raising questions whether the landmark balloting will lead quickly to stability in this fractured country.

On Thursday, insurgents ambushed Iraqi police who came to an area about 10 miles southeast of Baghdad to search for weapons. The Interior Ministry said 14 policemen were killed, 65 were wounded and six were missing after the two-hour gunbattle. Four insurgents also died in the fighting, the ministry said.

Final election results have not been released, but partial figures indicate Shiite Muslims linked to the powerful clergy will have the largest number of seats in the 275-member National Assembly. Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's ticket was running third behind a Kurdish alliance.

Iraqi officials said Friday they need only a few days at most to complete counting the ballots. Officials had expected to announce a final tally by Thursday but later said the process had been delayed because of the need to recount votes from about 300 ballot boxes.

"The counting is in the very final stages," said Abdul-Hussein Hendawi, the head of the election commission. "There are almost 3 percent of the ballots remaining for the National Assembly that are still being counted ? only a few days maximum."

Elsewhere, an aide to Iraq (news - web sites)'s most revered Shiite Muslim cleric was injured in an assassination attempt in Baghdad after receiving threats from militants opposing his support for Iraq's elections, the man's relative said Friday.

Sheik Ammar al-Hilali, a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, was shot seven times by gunmen in two cars as he left sunset prayers at a mosque Tuesday, said the relative, Ali al-Lafta.

The relative said al-Hilali had received many threats from Sunni Arab extremists.

Al-Sistani himself was a strong backer of the vote and even declared voting a religious duty for every man and woman, contributing to a huge turnout among Shiites, who comprise about 60 percent of Iraq's estimated 26 million people.

However, many Sunni Arabs, estimated at 20 percent of the population, apparently stayed away from the polls, either out of fear of insurgent attacks or in support of a boycott call by their clergy.

During Friday prayers at a mosque in a Sunni district of Baghdad, the preacher urged Iraqis to unite to "push out the enemy" ? meaning the Americans ? "by any legitimate means."

Rumsfeld flew to the tense northern city of Mosul to meet with commanders and troops before traveling to Baghdad. In his address at the Mosul airfield, Rumsfeld told American troops: "You have shown that America is in fact a land of liberators, not a land of occupiers."

But, he added: "It is the Iraqis who have to over time defeat the insurgency."

Rumsfeld is the most senior U.S. official to visit Iraq since the elections. Rumsfeld's spokesman Larry di Rita said the purpose of the trip was "to recognize the great success of the elections."

As American officials speak of the need for Iraqis to shoulder more responsibility for battling the insurgents, the rebels have been stepping up their attacks against Iraqi police and soldiers, hoping to undermine their morale and the public's confidence in their capabilities.

More than 50 people have been killed since late Wednesday in insurgency-related violence, and many of the victims were from the security services.

Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told The Associated Press his country will keep soldiers in Iraq at least through the end of this year, when the U.N. mandate for foreign troops' presence expires.

Poland has more than 2,400 troops in the multinational force, which is based in central Iraq, south of Baghdad. It is reducing its presence to about 1,700 troops this month in a move announced last year.

"There is a decision by the president that Polish soldiers will be there until Dec. 31, 2005: up to 1,700 soldiers plus additional 700 troops on standby in Poland, and that's how it will be," Szmajdzinski said by telephone from France, where he is attending a NATO (news - web sites) meeting.
What was that AlLIEwi said? Terrorism was defeated? Hmmm...odd looking defeat.


And, btw, how long does it take to count votes from 300 ballot boxes? Are they just buying time to force some US puppet into the gov't?

Will you please stop bothering us with the facts???!

"The New Iraq"? is doing just fine. Forget those ballot boxes. Forget those corpses. (And PLEASE forget that WMD!)

We're bringing freedom and democracy to all those heathen Arabs in the Middle East. How dare you question our leader's motives or methods?

Commie.

Terrorist.

Frenchman.

:)

 

lozina

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Don't worry, democracy will kick in any second now and this will all just be a bad dream.
 

conjur

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Well, it better hurry up and kick in before the Shiites start fighting back and a real civil war erupts


Four Blasts Kill at Least 29 in Baghdad
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...e=1&u=/ap/20050218/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four explosions ripped through Baghdad on Friday, killing at least 29 people and injuring dozens on the eve of Shiite Islam's most important holiday, officials said. It was the deadliest day since Iraq (news - web sites)'s landmark elections last month.

The explosions took place across Baghdad, mostly in Shiite neighborhoods. Suicide bombers attacked two Shiite mosques after Friday prayers ended, another explosion occurred near a Shiite religious procession and a third suicide bomber detonated himself at an Iraqi police and National Guard checkpoint in a Sunni neighborhood.

There were no immediate claims of responsibility, but Iraqis blamed radical Sunni Muslim insurgents, who have staged car bombs, shooting attacks and kidnappings in efforts to destabilize the country's reconstruction and provoke a sectarian civil war between Shiites and Sunnis.

"Those infidel Wahhabis, those Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) followers, they did this because they hate Shiites," said Sari Abdullah, a worshipper at the al-Khadimain mosque who was injured by shrapnel from the explosion. "They are afraid of us. They are not Muslims. They are infidels."

Before the explosions occurred, Shiite leader Abdel Aziz al-Hakim gave a sermon at a mosque in another Baghdad suburb and called on Iraqi Shiites to unite under the banner of the newly elected National Assembly. His United Iraqi Alliance won 48 percent of the vote and controlled a majority of seats in the 275-seat parliament.

"I address all Iraqis of all national, religious affiliations. I call upon them to unite to confront all conspiracies against Iraq," al-Hakim said. "I want to confirm to all that the Iraq we want is a secure Iraq, an Iraq in which all people without exception feel justice and equality. Yes, yes for unity."

Friday's attacks during the Islamic holy month of Muharram came one day before Ashoura, the holiest day of the year for Shiites. Ashoura marks the death of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the prophet Muhammad, in a seventh-century battle for leadership of the Islamic world.

The explosions came as Iraq partially sealed its land borders as part of stepped up security on the eve of the holiday. Attacks last year killed at least 181 people and wounded 573, the U.S. coalition said. The Iraqi Governing Council said 271 people were killed.
 

Train

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.

Yeah good job in ALWAYS reporting the negative news out of Iraq. I bet you people aren't really concerned with the violence in Iraq as you are to make Bush look bad. Its not working, in fact the Americans are turned off by this much negativity.
but he supports the troops! err, I mean thats what he says anyways.
 

conjur

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6913272/
In other developments:

Indonesia?s Foreign Ministry on Friday said two reporters working for an Indonesian television station went missing in Iraq on Wednesday and that a witness said they were kidnapped by armed men wearing Iraqi military uniforms.

In Karbala, police on Friday found the bodies of two police officers, both the sons of the chief of police of Najaf, another southern Shiite cit.

Three men who were planning to carry out terrorist attacks in Karbala during the Ashoura memorial were arrested on Friday, police said.

Gunmen kidnapped Sabir Sharaf Al-Qaisym, a member of interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi?s Iraqi National Accord party, from outside his house late Thursday in western Baghdad?s Ummal neighborhood, police Captain Talib Thamir said.

In northern Iraq, brief clashes broke out between U.S. troops and gunmen in Tal Afar, leaving one woman dead and six others wounded, hospital officials said Friday.

In Saddam Hussein?s hometown of Tikrit, coalition forces said two insurgents were killed and another was wounded trying to plant a roadside bomb. The injured man was arrested and taken to a military hospital.

A Swedish citizen kidnapped in Iraq appeared in a video with a gun pointed at his head, appealing to the pope and Sweden?s king to help win his release from insurgents, Swedish media reported. A group calling itself ?Martyr of al-Isawy Brigades? said it kidnapped the Swede of Iraqi descent as he traveled from Mosul to Baghdad this month.
 

Red Dawn

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I love the Players but hate the Game. That is I support our troops but hate the way we became involved in that war. The Soldiers had nothing to do with it and are doing their best to make something positive out of the Dub's ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I love the Players but hate the Game. That is I support our troops but hate the way we became involved in that war. The Soldiers had nothing to do with it and are doing their best to make something positive out of the Dub's ill advised excellent adventure in Iraq.
It's not like they can either desert en masse or refuse to enter battle.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ntdz
I wonder how many people got murdered here in the USA in the same time period.
How about sticking to the topic. If you want to compare murder rates in the U.S. to deaths in Iraq due to a foreign force's occupation, go right ahead. Otherwise, stfu and go thread-crap elsewhere.

Yeah good job in ALWAYS reporting the negative news out of Iraq. I bet you people aren't really concerned with the violence in Iraq as you are to make Bush look bad. Its not working, in fact the Americans are turned off by this much negativity.
but he supports the troops! err, I mean thats what he says anyways.

Supporting the troops doesn't mean not be able to criticize the war they're fighting. When will you get that?
 

ntdz

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Nice Sources...Las Vegas Sun and Al Jazeera....

Oh, and nice negative post once again. I can't imagine how you make it through the day just looking at the negatives.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Nice Sources...Las Vegas Sun and Al Jazeera....

Oh, and nice negative post once again. I can't imagine how you make it through the day just looking at the negatives.

Psst... the Las Vegas Sun article is off the AP wire.