Plenty of criticism aimed at kerry came from...

[CADsortaGUY]

democrats.

Interesting collection of quotes.

CkG

 

[sMiLeYz]

What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Those same people have said they think Kerry would be much better than Bush, and you don't have to take their words out of context to get that message.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Isn't it funny how quickly they rush to defend their own kind?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Those same people have said they think Kerry would be much better than Bush, and you don't have to take their words out of context to get that message.

No need to take their words out of context - their criticisms were valid at the time - no? Or are you saying their criticisms weren't credible?

CkG

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Isn't it funny how quickly they rush to defend their own kind?

Vaulted. (it comes out the next time you post a 'defensive' reply)

Have a nice day Commander.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Those same people have said they think Kerry would be much better than Bush, and you don't have to take their words out of context to get that message.

No need to take their words out of context - their criticisms were valid at the time - no? Or are you saying their criticisms weren't credible?

CkG

polititions - credible? you are being sarcastic right?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Those same people have said they think Kerry would be much better than Bush, and you don't have to take their words out of context to get that message.

No need to take their words out of context - their criticisms were valid at the time - no? Or are you saying their criticisms weren't credible?

CkG

polititions - credible? you are being sarcastic right?

Are you saying they were lying when they said these things about kerry? Are these things they said untrue?

CkG

 

[Gaard]

"A vote for Kerry is like a vote for Hitler." <--- Google it

Wasn't there a big todo recently concerning a comparison between Bush and Hitler?

 

[Tom]

"No need to take their words out of context - their criticisms were valid at the time - no? Or are you saying their criticisms weren't credible?"


First of all, they are already out of context when you take comments they made in comparing themselves to Kerry and use them to compare Kerry to Bush.

Secondly, they are opinions, so I don't understand your comment about credibility.

Thirdly, voters in most states have not agreed with the those opinions or at least found them compelling, as demonstrated by the election results.

Fourthly, these kind of comments are nothing new in primary politics, in fact they are extremely mild in comparison to such utterances in past campaigns, remember who used the phrase "voodoo economics" ?

Fifthly, comments made by politicians that lose elections disappear into the ether very quickly, there is nothing here that will make any difference in the race upcoming.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Are you saying they were lying when they said these things about kerry? Are these things they said untrue?

CkG

i'm not saying either, just pointing out that politions and crediablity don't mix well in general.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"No need to take their words out of context - their criticisms were valid at the time - no? Or are you saying their criticisms weren't credible?"


First of all, they are already out of context when you take comments they made in comparing themselves to Kerry and use them to compare Kerry to Bush.

Secondly, they are opinions, so I don't understand your comment about credibility.

Thirdly, voters in most states have not agreed with the those opinions or at least found them compelling, as demonstrated by the election results.

Fourthly, these kind of comments are nothing new in primary politics, in fact they are extremely mild in comparison to such utterances in past campaigns, remember who used the phrase "voodoo economics" ?

Fifthly, comments made by politicians that lose elections disappear into the ether very quickly, there is nothing here that will make any difference in the race upcoming.

1. Bush has nothing to do with this. This is about kerry and other democrats.
2. Are the accusations and statements true?
3. Are you really that naive? Primaries are bandwagonish(new word?) kerry rode the dot-dean-bust to victory.
4. Never said it was a "new" thing.
5. Sure - whatever helps you sleep at night. I think a few of those will ring true to alot of folks. Gephardt has a bit of clout with certain folks(don't ask me why) and when he says: "John Kerry is no friend to family farmers." - I think alot of people know that to be true.

CkG

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
What do you know? They happen to have been *Grasp* fellow presidential canadiates?

Does that make them less credible?

CkG

Isn't it funny how quickly they rush to defend their own kind?

Vaulted. (it comes out the next time you post a 'defensive' reply)

Have a nice day Commander.

Noted.

 

[happyhelper]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

5. Sure - whatever helps you sleep at night. I think a few of those will ring true to alot of folks. Gephardt has a bit of clout with certain folks(don't ask me why) and when he says: "John Kerry is no friend to family farmers." - I think alot of people know that to be true.

CkG

Maybe Gephardt is a friend to family farmers, though I doubt it, since he is a politician. Maybe Kerry is not a friend to family farmers, maybe he is, Gephardt's unbacked statement may or may not be true. Regardless, Bush is not a friend to family farmers, though he does appeal to rednecks in general for various reasons including mostly machoism and jingoism.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: happyhelper

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

5. Sure - whatever helps you sleep at night. I think a few of those will ring true to alot of folks. Gephardt has a bit of clout with certain folks(don't ask me why) and when he says: "John Kerry is no friend to family farmers." - I think alot of people know that to be true.

CkG

Maybe Gephardt is a friend to family farmers, though I doubt it, since he is a politician. Maybe Kerry is not a friend to family farmers, maybe he is, Gephardt's unbacked statement may or may not be true. Regardless, Bush is not a friend to family farmers, though he does appeal to rednecks in general for various reasons including mostly machoism and jingoism.

Ever hear of Bio-diesel? Ever heard of Ethanol? I do believe Bush supports those. Both of which would actually create a farming market that makes a product instead of letting farmers get paid to not grow crops. But again this isn't about Bush - this is about kerry and the statements made against him by democrats.

CkG

 

[0roo0roo]

thats nothing...

"We play it different down here," one of Bush's top South Carolina advisors told Time magazine in February. "We're not dainty, if you get my drift. We're used to playin' rough."

Indeed. Push polls attacked McCain's personal life and exaggerated his role in the Keating savings and loan scandal. Leaflets slammed his wife, Cindy, for her past addiction to painkillers. An e-mail from a Bob Jones University professor accused McCain of fathering children out of wedlock. A mysterious public action committee in favor of the Confederate flag -- called "Keep it Flying" -- sprang up overnight and slammed McCain in 250,000 leaflets.

http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/11/14/sc_pols/index.html


and well, samply, bushies hitman who is now heading the veterans against kerry..did the same thing to McCain...

"Sampley ... accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped death by collaborating with the enemy. Sampley claimed that McCain had first been compromised by the Vietnamese, then recruited by the Soviets.

In 1992, Sampley wrote a long article that portrayed McCain as a "Manchurian candidate," who had betrayed America to the North Vietnamese and then enlisted as a secret Communist agent. But it wasn't until seven years later that the celebrated Navy pilot and ex-POW found out how much damage such smears could inflict. After McCain declared his presidential candidacy in 1999, Sampley revived the "Manchurian candidate" smear as a convenient weapon for the Senator's political enemies. Some of them, including the prominent conservative Paul Weyrich and Richard Mellon Scaife's Newsmax Web site, didn't hesitate to pick up the slimy stuff generated by Sampley. The fringe assault on McCain, amplified by the likes of Weyrich and talk radio, caused grave injury to his campaign during the pivotal South Carolina primary.

welcome to the republican scum machine.. http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/10/kerry_smear/