pledge of allegiancee

[Hacp]

I'm too lazy.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I won't say 'under god', I find it offensive and against the foundations of this nation. In school I was prohibited from saying it without saying under god, so I chose to not say it at all. Now I will say it, but just leave the added bit out.

I also don't believe in people under about 6-9th grade saying it because they're 'generally' incapable of comprehending it's deeper meanings and impacts.

I feel the same about teaching religion. Funny how 99% of kids practice their parents' religion and consider it the "right" one. Guess they were just born lucky!

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I won't say 'under god', I find it offensive and against the foundations of this nation. In school I was prohibited from saying it without saying under god, so I chose to not say it at all. Now I will say it, but just leave the added bit out.

I also don't believe in people under about 6-9th grade saying it because they're 'generally' incapable of comprehending it's deeper meanings and impacts.

I feel the same about teaching religion. Funny how 99% of kids practice their parents' religion and consider it the "right" one. Guess they were just born lucky!

/answer presented to counter any logical argument against religion

It's god's will

 

[nick1985]

I always participate in both. If that makes me a "sheep" in the eyes of some people, then so be it.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I think pledges are stupid. So are anthems.

How about pledging your allegiance to the Skull & Bones Society?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: nick1985
I always participate in both. If that makes me a "sheep" in the eyes of some people, then so be it.

Sheep are sheep because they don't understand they're walking to the slaughterhouse.

If you understand the words of the pledge, make a conscious decision that they represent your thoughts and beliefs, and you then decide to intone them, then you are not a sheep.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Something I hope we all can believe in:

Changing the anthem to America the Beautiful

edit: Ray Charles version

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Something I hope we all can believe in:

Changing the anthem to America the Beautiful

edit: Ray Charles version

Do you have a reason? Personally I find the our current National anthem which is an ode to the American spirit of fighting on and facing adversity with faith that freedom would endure much more inspiring than that lame ass god made a pretty country song.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Something I hope we all can believe in:

Changing the anthem to America the Beautiful

edit: Ray Charles version

Do you have a reason? Personally I find the our current National anthem which is an ode to the American spirit of fighting on and facing adversity with faith that freedom would endure much more inspiring than that lame ass god made a pretty country song.

Thank you for visiting the Ray Charles link. I guess you missed the 7 or 8 other verses in the song . . .

Ray Charles first verse:

Oh beautiful, for heroes proved,
In liberating strife.

Who more than self, our country loved,
And mercy more than life.

Sorry if that does not capture the proper spirit for you . . . .

 

[WHAMPOM]

If that pledge meant anything, there would have been an armed march of millions on Washington DC in 2000.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Something I hope we all can believe in:

Changing the anthem to America the Beautiful

edit: Ray Charles version

No thanks, bunch of religious claptrap. Sure there's a single mention of god in the current anthem, but only in the last stanza which is never sung to. Also the current anthem is about forging America against opposition, which is fitting.

 

[conehead433]

George W. Bush swore to uphold the Constitution and didn't .

 

[dualsmp]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I think pledges are stupid. So are anthems.

How about pledging your allegiance to the Skull & Bones Society?

Like our current president?

George W. Bush swore to uphold the Constitution and didn't .

See above. He has an allegiance (a previous oath) that trumps any other oath after the fact. That's what happens when you have people in government with secret agendas and oaths that the public is unaware of.. "it's so secret we can't talk about it"

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
So, when do get the opportunity to say the pledge outside of 1980s-era (and previous) grade school? I don't think I've said it once since the 2nd grade, and I sure haven't witnessed it being spoken anywhere else.

I was reciting it damn near every day until the end of high school. I graduated from high school in '03. I haven't said the 'under god' since 7th or 8th grade though.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: nick1985
I always participate in both. If that makes me a "sheep" in the eyes of some people, then so be it.

I don't think it makes you a sheep as long as you don't expect others to do the same.

The way I look at it is if you said it just once that's enough. You made a pledge and unless you renounce it there's no need to keep repeating it. I can also understand why a person might not want to say it as it has a reference to a diety they may not believe in.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

It seems only Americans have to stand up and prove how patriotic they are once a day while the rest of the world does not.

Our anthem trumps yours by about a million times too.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

It seems only Americans have to stand up and prove how patriotic they are once a day while the rest of the world does not.

Our anthem trumps yours by about a million times too.

Well there has to be something good about being a Brit.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

Does this include the large numbers of militant muslims, do they believe in the UK?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

Does this include the large numbers of militant muslims, do they believe in the UK?

I'm sure you know more about this since you Americans are all knowing but we do not have a large number of militant Muslims.

Hate to break it to ya but your boogyman is your own, not ours.

Nice thread crapping though. *applauds the monkey doing what monkeys do*

 

[Moonbeam]

I think I smell baboon behind.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

It seems only Americans have to stand up and prove how patriotic they are once a day while the rest of the world does not.

Our anthem trumps yours by about a million times too.

Well there has to be something good about being a Brit.

Well, being an Englishman (i'd prefer it if you call me that and not a Brit) and growing up on the countryside with a lot of beautiful women....

Our biggest mistake was electing a man who jumped when GW told him to jump, that has been corrected since then, our biggest gift to mankind is our women, and yeah, most of them are quite lovely.

However, i find myself flirting with women in the US so maybe we're equal on that.

So you have beautiful women too, (you already know this, of course, you married one of the most beautiful) but we still have a better prime minister than you have president.

So we win.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I think I smell baboon behind.

I knew you'd join in once i'd said the monkey say, monkey do bit.

Hi Moonbeam *waves*

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

It seems only Americans have to stand up and prove how patriotic they are once a day while the rest of the world does not.

Our anthem trumps yours by about a million times too.

Well there has to be something good about being a Brit.

Well, being an Englishman (i'd prefer it if you call me that and not a Brit) and growing up on the countryside with a lot of beautiful women....

Our biggest mistake was electing a man who jumped when GW told him to jump, that has been corrected since then, our biggest gift to mankind is our women, and yeah, most of them are quite lovely.

However, i find myself flirting with women in the US so maybe we're equal on that.

So you have beautiful women too, (you already know this, of course, you married one of the most beautiful) but we still have a better prime minister than you have president.

So we win.

Give that man a cupeie doll!!!

http://stir.org.au/stir/Assets...tImages/cupie-doll.jpg

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
In the UK we believe in our country without a pledge of allegiance.

It seems only Americans have to stand up and prove how patriotic they are once a day while the rest of the world does not.

Our anthem trumps yours by about a million times too.

Well there has to be something good about being a Brit.

Well, being an Englishman (i'd prefer it if you call me that and not a Brit) and growing up on the countryside with a lot of beautiful women....

Our biggest mistake was electing a man who jumped when GW told him to jump, that has been corrected since then, our biggest gift to mankind is our women, and yeah, most of them are quite lovely.

However, i find myself flirting with women in the US so maybe we're equal on that.

So you have beautiful women too, (you already know this, of course, you married one of the most beautiful) but we still have a better prime minister than you have president.

So we win.

Give that man a cupeie doll!!!

http://stir.org.au/stir/Assets...tImages/cupie-doll.jpg

LOL, i don't get it?