Please Vote - Feedback Requested Regarding Future of the "OC'ing Guidelines" Thread

What to do with the existing Stick Thread?

  • Keep it, update the OP, eliminate all outdated information

  • Unsticky and lock it for posterity, start a new sticky thread with new info

  • We don't need the sticky even now, let alone a new one, unsticky it and just let it go


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Idontcare

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I am seeking community feedback regarding the future direction of the currently stickied Overclocking CPU/GPU/Memory Stability Testing Guidelines thread.

Originally it was drafted with the intent of harmonizing and aligning a baseline level of stability testing for members to fall back on when reporting their 24x7 OC's as well as being a general assembly point of stability testing links for the various components in your system (beyond just that of the CPU).

My motivation for drafting the sticky was born from experience and observation - at the time I was wrestling with mapping out the stable clockspeed versus voltage versus temperature space for my 2600k and I came to the realization that we (the AnandTech Forums) didn't really have a singular location that members could look to and find links to widely accepted/adopted stability testing programs like LinX and Memtest and so forth.

Further, from observation it was easy to see that we had an unnecessary level of friction and angst transpiring between various members owing to claims being made of having 24x7 OC's as verified by differing means of stress testing. It was really becoming an inflammatory topic matter for folks who would use say Aida64 or super-Pi as their stress tester and then report higher OC's as being stable in comparison to the LinX tested rigs of their peers.

Now no two computers will be OC limited for the exact same reasons, different circuits within the different chips will be the weakest link and it stands to reason that no one stress tester program is going to cover all the bases. But it would be nice to have a sort of "agreed upon minimum testing regiment" for establishing one's claims of "my 24x7 OC is x.yz GHz at a.bcd Volts".

One goal of the existing sticky was to avoid making the stress testing protocol overly complicated or tedious such that it would be a turn-off to many new members. We have to keep it simple if we want people to give it a go.

Right now I am once again wrestling with finding the sweet spots for both my i7-3770k and my FX-8350 and I am once again finding that relevant programs have evolved in the past year or two since the sticky linked above was drafted.

Now then - the purpose of this thread, and the vote, is to determine if the community would like to see the existing sticky taken down and replaced with an entirely new OC Testing Guideline thread, or if the community would prefer to preserve the existing sticky and have me basically re-write the OP (at the risk of making some of the existing 150 posts seem odd or out of place).

Furthermore, in addition to voting on the fate of the existing sticky thread, I'd very much appreciate if members would chime in with links and proposal for testing regiments with stress testers.

For example, as we have observed it is not enough to merely say "5 passes of LinX" or "3 hrs of LinX" because we also know the amount of memory used in the LinX testing effects the level of stress the program places on the CPU and the ram.

We also need to keep it simple so the adoption rate remains high, the best testing regiment is not going to be the one that involves running three separate programs simultaneously because few people will actually go to the effort of running such a setup. Keep it simple, good enough to rule out the silly unstable OC's but we aren't looking for procedures that call for the members to have their rigs running LinX for days on end either because then hardly anyone will actually do it.
 

Jaydip

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OK IDC I find there should be another option.

start a new sticky thread with new info

Keep the old thread as is, it may be beneficial for a lot of people.Regarding benches we do run a variety of applications in a short frame.I love the AT SSD benches where there is a varying load as it mimics the real world scenario.So instead of running a test for 5 hrs mix and match various tests.
 

Idontcare

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OK IDC I find there should be another option.

start a new sticky thread with new info

Keep the old thread as is, it may be beneficial for a lot of people.Regarding benches we do run a variety of applications in a short frame.I love the AT SSD benches where there is a varying load as it mimics the real world scenario.So instead of running a test for 5 hrs mix and match various tests.

I agree with jay.

That is option #2 in the poll.
 

KingFatty

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Throughout my life I've seen hidden benefits to just starting over. You use what you learned in the past, and bring new insights to re-writing from top-to-bottom. If you merely re-edit the old post, that can introduce a legacy bias even if you are not consciously aware of it. Start fresh I say.
 

Borealis7

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i sometimes help other people OC, but i only have experience with CORE2s and Sandy Bridges so i would like to have several posts with OC guides to different architectures for example CORE2, Nehalem, Sandy Bridge, Haswell (when relevant), PHENOM IIs and Bulldozers.
 

VirtualLarry

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An old-school stress-test for the integer units, was running PKUNZIP with the 386 opcodes enabled, in a batch-file loop, using the ONEXIT variable to indicate if there was an error in unzipping, and a collection of fairly large files. Oh, and they were to be stored in a RAMDISK. In DOS.

I doubt that would be included in the sticky, but it can't hurt to include it here for posterity.

Edit: Although, now that I think about it, FPU-heavy testing like LinX, might actually not be good for the FX/Vishera CPUs, since they are bottlenecked on their FPUs. Something that stresses the integer units more might be better for them, or as a complement to the FPU testing.

I used to do FPU testing on the Athlon XP, using a long runtime of the OpenGL "Pipes" screensaver. After a few hours, the CPU would heat up, and it would start drawing errors in the pipes, if the FPU was overclocked too much.
 
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Sable

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We can't have competing stickies pertaining to the same subject matter. A new sticky would supplant the existing one, on that there is no choice (forum-wide policy).
Easily solved. Link to unstickied old thread in new sticky.

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Voted 2. And thanks for the previous thread IDC, helped a lot with my Sandy overclock.